Spoilers on default Airbus 320

I am having difficulty landing and I think it may have some thing to do with how the spoilers are deployed/not deployed. There are several commands in FSUIPC but I do not know which is the correct one to assign to a button: Spoiler Dec, Spoiler Inc, Spoiler Arm Off, Spoiler Arm On, Spoiler Arm Set, Spoiler Arm Toggle, Spoilers Off, Spoilers On, Spoilers Set, Spoilers Toggle. The first two are self explanatory but the other commands seem to be variations of the same thing. My understanding is that arming the spoilers should not deploy them and that this should be automatic on touchdown. Trouble is I'm too busy concentrating to change the view to see what is happening. Is there any indication in the cockpit that the spoilers are armed and subsequently successfully deployed?

 

Alan

You should have a visual on the throttle panel shift + (number) if they are or not. Use shift+/ to arm.

 

Cheers,

I normally check my speed brake/spoiler armed indicator to make sure I have them armed for landing. After landing and pulling off the runway, you can jump to an outside view to see them raised. They need to be manually lowered.

 

They will also automatically in down if you advance the throttle after touchdown. (to enable going around after touchdown if needed.)

Milk? --- was supposed to come out as: will

Milk? --- was supposed to come out as: will

Thumbs and phones don't mix well!;)

After reading this I went and opened the 320.

 

If it was a default aircraft.....bet it was an A-321!;) Just for clarification. Nit picky, I know!

You're wrong there.

When armed they extend as soon as you are on the ground.

So when you arm them while parked, they extend.

 

Try in flight.

And partially extending works too. Not sure if it will be visible in the outside model of the a321 default, but the partial loss of lift effect sure is there.

My default Airbus 321 does not show a gauge for the speed brake as you suggest mrzippy, it displays the aircraft Tail number in that position.

 

Alan

My default Airbus 321 does not show a gauge for the speed brake as you suggest mrzippy, it displays the aircraft Tail number in that position.

 

Alan

 

Well.....what would you rather see? A non-changing tail number or a working speed brake/auto-spoiler warning??

 

[Window00]

file_1024=airbus_a321_panel_background.bmp

file_1024_night=airbus_a321_panel_background_night.bmp

size_mm=1024

position=7

visible=1

ident=MAIN_PANEL

 

gauge00=Airbus_A321!altimeter_backup, 676,505

gauge01=Airbus_A321!annunciator_panel_1, 24,357

gauge02=Airbus_A321!attitude_backup, 651,628

gauge03=Airbus_A321!autopilot, 677,346

gauge04=Airbus_A321!hsi_backup, 517,609

gauge05=Airbus_A321!ias_backup, 581,506

gauge06=Airbus_A321!pfd, 23,521,215,214

gauge07=Airbus_A321!mfd, 264,521,215,214

gauge08=Airbus_A321!ecams, 788,521,215,214

gauge09=Airbus_A321!pfd_mfd_select_panel, 470,345

 

gauge26=SimIcons1024!ECU Icon, 790, 745

gauge27=SimIcons1024!Overhead Icon, 812, 745

gauge28=SimIcons1024!Kneeboard Icon, 834, 745

gauge29=SimIcons1024!ATC Icon, 856, 745

gauge30=SimIcons1024!Map Icon, 878, 745

gauge31=SimIcons1024!GPS Icon, 900, 745

gauge32=SimIcons1024!Radio Icon, 922, 745

gauge33=SimIcons1024!Other Controls Icon, 944, 745

gauge34=SimIcons1024!Engine Instruments Icon, 966, 745

gauge35=SimIcons1024!Clock Icon, 988, 745

gauge36=B737_800!annunciator_speed_brake_armed, 258,429,67,19

 

 

 

[VCockpit01]

size_mm=1024,1024

pixel_size=1024,1024

texture=$A321_1

background_color=0,0,0

 

gauge01=Airbus_A321!popup_overhead, 1,1,761,354

gauge02=Airbus_A321!hsi_backup, 859,735,114,135

gauge03=Airbus_A321!ecams2, 2,356,283,282

gauge04=Airbus_A321!ecams, 2,639,283,282

gauge05=Airbus_A321!attitude_backup, 858,518,105,104

gauge06=Airbus_A321!annunciator_panel_1, 574,412,438,103

gauge07=Airbus_A321!ias_backup, 4,941,79,79

gauge08=Airbus_A321!altimeter_backup, 91,940,79,80

gauge09=Airbus_A321!popup_radio, 765,114,246,296

gauge10=Airbus_A321!popup_ecu, 576,517,279,479

gauge11=Airbus_A321!popup_clock, 859,626,105,105

gauge12=Airbus_A321!pfd_mfd_select_panel, 765,1,207,110

gauge13=Airbus_A321!pfd, 287,357,283,282

gauge14=Airbus_A321!mfd, 287,640,285,285

gauge15=B737_800!annunciator_speed_brake_armed, 574,360,89,25

 

The changes made to both the 2D and VC are marked in RED.

I'd suggest you download the Project Airbus A320 family package, which includes quite a good A321, probably the best freeware one. I'm a huge Boeing fan, but I fly A321s from the package quite often, simply because they nailed it to the head.

 

About the Spoilers - in the Project Airbus planes, the spoilers are armed automatically before takeoff and landing, without you needing to press anything. On takeoff, as soon as you advance the throttle to T/O thrust, the spoilers will be armed automatically. They will also be armed automatically immediately upon lowering the gear, before landing.

Default A321 - speed brake armed:

 

 

 

Default A321 speed brake indication in 2D panel -- Retracted:

 

 

--

Default A321 speed brake indication in 2D panel -- Armed:

You're wrong there.

When armed they extend as soon as you are on the ground.

So when you arm them while parked, they extend.

 

Try in flight.

And partially extending works too. Not sure if it will be visible in the outside model of the a321 default, but the partial loss of lift effect sure is there.

 

I stand corrected. I deleted my post. Thank you for pointing that out.

Default A321 - speed brake armed:

 

[ATTACH=CONFIG]192018[/ATTACH]

 

 

Default A321 speed brake indication in 2D panel -- Retracted:

[ATTACH=CONFIG]192019[/ATTACH]

 

 

--

Default A321 speed brake indication in 2D panel -- Armed:

[ATTACH=CONFIG]192020[/ATTACH]

 

All good stuff il, but I think GridNorth is anti-screen button clicker and wants to use his keyboard only. I could be wrong! Thought I was wrong, once, but I was wrong!;)

Hi Egsjr,

I too thought for a long time the fsx spoilers didn't fully work and only did retract/arm/extend. Only found out recently they are more sophisticated. Was a nice surprise.:)

Glad I could help.

mrzippy: You are correct, to date I have managed to eliminate most of the mouse usage. Easy in a Cesna but a little more difficult in an Airbus 321 :-)How do you get that Flight Control panel to display? That looks like a useful panel. Am I right in thinking that "armed" does not mean"deployed"? I know how to deploy the spoilers but my understanding was that if they are armed they should deploy automatically on touch down. Mine do not appear to do so.

 

The issue I have is that the PAPI lights are all white but I get warnings that I am too low but I overshoot the runway.

 

Alan

By pressing the FCTL button underneath the MFD using a mouse click. Armed does not mean deployed! Armed means deployment when mainmounts touch the runway. Don't look for spoilers to be up until you are on the runway unless you manually deploy them earlier.

Thank, you're a star.

 

Alan

Well.....what would you rather see? A non-changing tail number or a working speed brake/auto-spoiler warning??

 

[Window00]

file_1024=airbus_a321_panel_background.bmp

file_1024_night=airbus_a321_panel_background_night.bmp

size_mm=1024

position=7

visible=1

ident=MAIN_PANEL

 

gauge00=Airbus_A321!altimeter_backup, 676,505

gauge01=Airbus_A321!annunciator_panel_1, 24,357

gauge02=Airbus_A321!attitude_backup, 651,628

gauge03=Airbus_A321!autopilot, 677,346

gauge04=Airbus_A321!hsi_backup, 517,609

gauge05=Airbus_A321!ias_backup, 581,506

gauge06=Airbus_A321!pfd, 23,521,215,214

gauge07=Airbus_A321!mfd, 264,521,215,214

gauge08=Airbus_A321!ecams, 788,521,215,214

gauge09=Airbus_A321!pfd_mfd_select_panel, 470,345

 

gauge26=SimIcons1024!ECU Icon, 790, 745

gauge27=SimIcons1024!Overhead Icon, 812, 745

gauge28=SimIcons1024!Kneeboard Icon, 834, 745

gauge29=SimIcons1024!ATC Icon, 856, 745

gauge30=SimIcons1024!Map Icon, 878, 745

gauge31=SimIcons1024!GPS Icon, 900, 745

gauge32=SimIcons1024!Radio Icon, 922, 745

gauge33=SimIcons1024!Other Controls Icon, 944, 745

gauge34=SimIcons1024!Engine Instruments Icon, 966, 745

gauge35=SimIcons1024!Clock Icon, 988, 745

gauge36=B737_800!annunciator_speed_brake_armed, 258,429,67,19

 

 

 

[VCockpit01]

size_mm=1024,1024

pixel_size=1024,1024

texture=$A321_1

background_color=0,0,0

 

gauge01=Airbus_A321!popup_overhead, 1,1,761,354

gauge02=Airbus_A321!hsi_backup, 859,735,114,135

gauge03=Airbus_A321!ecams2, 2,356,283,282

gauge04=Airbus_A321!ecams, 2,639,283,282

gauge05=Airbus_A321!attitude_backup, 858,518,105,104

gauge06=Airbus_A321!annunciator_panel_1, 574,412,438,103

gauge07=Airbus_A321!ias_backup, 4,941,79,79

gauge08=Airbus_A321!altimeter_backup, 91,940,79,80

gauge09=Airbus_A321!popup_radio, 765,114,246,296

gauge10=Airbus_A321!popup_ecu, 576,517,279,479

gauge11=Airbus_A321!popup_clock, 859,626,105,105

gauge12=Airbus_A321!pfd_mfd_select_panel, 765,1,207,110

gauge13=Airbus_A321!pfd, 287,357,283,282

gauge14=Airbus_A321!mfd, 287,640,285,285

gauge15=B737_800!annunciator_speed_brake_armed, 574,360,89,25

 

The changes made to both the 2D and VC are marked in RED.

 

Ok, I know this is old, I also know the risk I take getting roasted royally by Mr Z :)

 

But to get this working would be worth the battering. Have tried everything I can tink of, checked the 737 folders are in the right place etc, but no cigar.

 

My changes are below.. Please guide me oh great one!

 

[Window00]

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file_1024_night=airbus_a321_panel_background_night.bmp

size_mm=1024

position=7

visible=1

ident=MAIN_PANEL

 

gauge00=Airbus_A321!altimeter_backup, 676,505

gauge01=Airbus_A321!annunciator_panel_1, 24,357

gauge02=Airbus_A321!attitude_backup, 651,628

gauge03=Airbus_A321!autopilot, 677,346

gauge04=Airbus_A321!hsi_backup, 517,609

gauge05=Airbus_A321!ias_backup, 581,506

gauge06=Airbus_A321!pfd, 23,521,215,214

gauge07=Airbus_A321!mfd, 264,521,215,214

gauge08=Airbus_A321!ecams, 788,521,215,214

gauge09=Airbus_A321!pfd_mfd_select_panel, 470,345

 

gauge26=SimIcons1024!ECU Icon, 790, 745

gauge27=SimIcons1024!Overhead Icon, 812, 745

gauge28=SimIcons1024!Kneeboard Icon, 834, 745

gauge29=SimIcons1024!ATC Icon, 856, 745

gauge30=SimIcons1024!Map Icon, 878, 745

gauge31=SimIcons1024!GPS Icon, 900, 745

gauge32=SimIcons1024!Radio Icon, 922, 745

gauge33=SimIcons1024!Other Controls Icon, 944, 745

gauge34=SimIcons1024!Engine Instruments Icon, 966, 745

gauge35=SimIcons1024!Clock Icon, 988, 745

gauge36=B737_800!annunciator_speed_brake_armed, 258,429,67,19

 

[VCockpit01]

size_mm=1024,1024

pixel_size=1024,1024

texture=$A321_1

background_color=0,0,0

 

gauge01=Airbus_A321!popup_overhead, 1,1,761,354

gauge02=Airbus_A321!hsi_backup, 859,735,114,135

gauge03=Airbus_A321!ecams2, 2,356,283,282

gauge04=Airbus_A321!ecams, 2,639,283,282

gauge05=Airbus_A321!attitude_backup, 858,518,105,104

gauge06=Airbus_A321!annunciator_panel_1, 574,412,438,103

gauge07=Airbus_A321!ias_backup, 4,941,79,79

gauge08=Airbus_A321!altimeter_backup, 91,940,79,80

gauge09=Airbus_A321!popup_radio, 765,114,246,296

gauge10=Airbus_A321!popup_ecu, 576,517,279,479

gauge11=Airbus_A321!popup_clock, 859,626,105,105

gauge12=Airbus_A321!pfd_mfd_select_panel, 765,1,207,110

gauge13=Airbus_A321!pfd, 287,357,283,282

gauge14=Airbus_A321!mfd, 287,640,285,285

gauge15=B737_800!annunciator_speed_brake_armed, 574,360,89,25

I just did mine, I had to copy the B737_800 cabinet from the Boeing panel.cfg to the Airbus A321 panel.cfg and then all worked! I installed the annunciator in the section below, and that allowed me to keep my aircraft reg where it was before. I used coordinates 258,475,67,19 and all worked well!

 

 

Rick :cool:

Edited June 24, 2019 by Downwind66

Rick, ya beat me to it. Just copy and add the 737_800 .cab file to your panel folder.

I had to, Enko thought you would "Roast him" and I kinda felt bad for him!

 

Rick :cool:

I had to, Enko thought you would "Roast him" and I kinda felt bad for him!

 

Rick :cool:

 

Odd, haven't "roasted" anyone in a while? I usually get my roasting done over at the "other" site where I moderate with an iron boot!;)

Nice thanks guys :)

Worked a treat, thanks guys