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    Default A CHALLENGE FOR ALL OF YOU TO TRY

    LNAV, VNAV, so what? Here's one to get you ready for our forthcoming Piper Archer, see if you can do it, it's really not that hard.

    Aircraft: Any light, single engine aircraft you are comfortable with, I suggest the default C-172SP, as it is close to the Archer in performance.

    Departure Airport: KJFK RW 13R (perhaps not realistic, but it makes this a short and convenient flight).

    Weather: No need for "advanced weather", just set clouds to "overcast", visibility to 1/2 mile (one half mile), and winds to 360* and "light" speed, or "moderate" speed if you want more of a challenge.

    Scenario: Depart KJFK 13R, climb to 1,000' and turn left to intercept the 150* radial out of TEB VOR (108.4), and fly inbound to the VOR, and KTEB airport (Teterboro).

    Climb and maintain 2,000'

    Upon reaching the TEB VOR intecept and fly outbound on the back course localizer for RW6 (108.9). Tune your ADF to the LOM at 214 to assist.

    Upon reaching the LOM, time outbound for 1 minute, then execute a standard procedure turn to the RIGHT, and come back around to join the inbound LOC, and shoot the ILS to RW6 at TEB.

    [big]YOU MAY **NOT** USE THE AUTOPILOT, FS2002 GPS, OR FS NAVIGATOR AT ANY TIME DURING THE EXCERCISE - NO CHEATING!!![/big] However, you may feel free to use any paper charts that you have.

    Post your screen shots here, as you cross over the threshold at TEB.

    I just thought I'd start getting some of you ready for a different type of "realism". ;-)

    Good luck and have fun. :-)

    Regards,
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    Regards,
    Lou Betti

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    But Lou, why would I want to take off from runway 13R (~130*) with a tailwind coming out of 360*, especially in a light, low-powered GA plane? ;-)

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    You trying to kill us? From the KTEB approach plate, the MSA (minimum safe altitude) within 25nm of the TEB VOR is 2900, flying across Manhattan no less! :-roll

    Lee Hetherington (KBOS)


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    ThomasMead Guest

    Default RE: A CHALLENGE FOR ALL OF YOU TO TRY

    Job Done

    Cheers Lou, that was a bit of fun for a Sunday evening! Shots below show how I did.

    Does this mean I'm qualified for the Archer beta test team now..... :-lol

    https://www.flightsim.com/images/noimage.png

    https://www.flightsim.com/images/noimage.png

    I had no charts so had to trust you on the sector altitude, and used a 200ft decision height, seemed to work!

    Cheers, Tom (EGCW)


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    Here's my go at it in a 172.

    Runway visible just a hair above minimums:
    http://www.sls.lcs.mit.edu/ilh/fs/pi...b-c172-min.jpg

    OK, not autopilot perfect on the map:
    http://www.sls.lcs.mit.edu/ilh/fs/pi...b-c172-map.gif

    Lou, let's see your pictures!

    Lee Hetherington (KBOS)


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    Here's another with only the MALSR visible at minimums:
    http://www.sls.lcs.mit.edu/ilh/fs/pi...archer-min.jpg

    I refuse to show the map track for this first attempt :-)

    Lee Hetherington (KBOS)


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    Default RE: A CHALLENGE FOR ALL OF YOU TO TRY

    While Jeff is nit picking over a cross wind, which makes little consequence on take off (I tell you to set it that way for landing, and with a 14,500 foot runway, and an SEL for take off, who cares about a tail wind!), several others are showing me they're good pilot's (as long as they laid off the AP!).

    Thanks for the shots! :-)

    Regards,
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    Regards,
    Lou Betti

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    Default RE: A CHALLENGE FOR ALL OF YOU TO TRY

    Trust me, you will not hit ANYTHING flying at 2000, and that's the altitude for the ILS approach to RW 6.

    Gawd, all this nit picking! :-roll

    JUST FLY THE BLOODY THING!

    Have I managed to kill anyone or myself yet???!!!

    This is the IFR test I use for all my GA aircraft, as it gives a nice workout to both NAVs, the ADF, LOC, BC, and ILS, and is a short flight.

    Any of you ever fly a real ILS into RW6 at TEB? Better yet, fly one with a CB chasing you in, and on your tail?

    I have. ;-)

    Regards,
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    Regards,
    Lou Betti

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    yeah lou i refuese to show mine as well when the clouds finally broke i realize i was to high i brough down safely but as i was turning for the short final a 737 gave me a hair cut i will try it again later i know i will probably do better in real world like i always do with singale engine pistons because it's easy to control then in FS2002
    thanks for the thrill on this boring sunday.

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    Just tugging your chain a little. It's not hard. ;-)

    Lee Hetherington (KBOS)


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