Thanks Guys, I did bring it up on the A2A forum. I read the manuals, both the Autopilot Bendix Manual, and the A2A manual. I did the updates, I trimmed the aircraft as much as I could do prior to engaging autopilot, this plane does not trim correctly, then of course to add to the misery, the Virtual Cockpit switches stopped working. I have been with Flight SIm since the Monochrome Sub Logic days. SO I am very familiar with Sim Aircraft etc. I flew the real thing for a while, and I can tell you this, if the actual "Real" Cessna C 172 acts like this we MUST ground all of them right now! Massive numbers of Cessnas will be falling out of the sky! This is A2A , and this is below their reputation for excellence.