• Microsoft Retakes Control Of FSX

    Microsoft Flight Simulator

    In 2014 Microsoft entered into an agreement allowing Dovetail Games to bring Flight Simulator X to Steam. Today, we are announcing that we've reached the end of our partnership agreement.

    We would like to take this opportunity to express our sincere appreciation to Dovetail Games for the partnership they've provided over the past 5 years. Going forward, Microsoft will take over support of Flight Simulator X and we look forward to sharing our next steps with the community in the very near future.

    Paul Jackson CEO Dovetail adds a€_We are incredibly proud to have looked after this fantastic flight sim during the last 5 years and we will continue publishing existing and new add-ons for FSX: Steam Edition on Steam.

    This change will not impact your game experience or impact existing or future add-ons purchased from Steam.

    Microsoft

    The return of Microsoft Flight Simulator X is an important step in embracing our accountability and responsibility to those that have come before us. And to those that continue to value and invest in the Microsoft Flight Simulator X experience.

    That passion, investment, and appreciation must be recognized and reflected in our commitment to carry the Microsoft Flight Simulator franchise into the next generation. We are not building on, but building from, the product and history that is Microsoft Flight Simulator X.

    Today, with a bit of bittersweet sentiment, we say a€_Welcome Homea€_ to an old friend.

    More on our FSX plans coming soon.

    Sincerely,
    The Microsoft Flight Simulator Team
    www.flightsimulator.com

    Tags: microsoft, msfs

    21 Comments
    1. Jbolt's Avatar
      Jbolt -
      would love to have a nice combat package
    1. lordhearteater's Avatar
      lordhearteater -
      Good. Now get back in cahoots with Jeppesen, and get the real world weather feature back.
    1. P.e.g.a.s.u.s's Avatar
      P.e.g.a.s.u.s -
      An interesting development. Let's see what they make of it.
    1. anaismith's Avatar
      anaismith -
      Wondering if they renege on Lockheed too regarding Prepared either as a whole or in the licensing.
    1. SSI01's Avatar
      SSI01 -
      Quote Originally Posted by lordhearteater View Post
      Good. Now get back in cahoots with Jeppesen, and get the real world weather feature back.
      Here's another person who has been hoping they would resume that coverage.
    1. KennethKerr's Avatar
      KennethKerr -
      Interesting development indeed. Hopefully they won't now force all 3rd party companies still producing for FSX to only release through Steam. I still use an old boxed version of FSX, and for the time being would like to see non-steam distribution continuing of new addons for the old girl. I do wonder if they will now change the steam version of FSX to add in the capabilities Dovetail were working on with FSWorld. I seem to recall reading that MS had reserved the right to leverage any developments should they take FSX back into their fold. And yes, let's restore live weather please.
    1. ryogahibiki345's Avatar
      ryogahibiki345 -
      Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
      Interesting development indeed. Hopefully they won't now force all 3rd party companies still producing for FSX to only release through Steam. I still use an old boxed version of FSX, and for the time being would like to see non-steam distribution continuing of new addons for the old girl.
      Why would you think they would? You can use any standard non FSX:SE add on with Steam Edition. Plus there are many such as myself that are still running the DVD-ROM version of FSX. There are still dozens of releases that are being made with installers for FSX, FSX:SE, and P3Dv1-3, and newer ones including P3Dv4. This very website has an e-store that sells those very items. You're making a mountain out of flat terrain. I say flat because this isn't even remotely a "molehill" issue.

      The TL;DR version: This is not an issue. You are panicking for no reason.
    1. KennethKerr's Avatar
      KennethKerr -
      Quote Originally Posted by ryogahibiki345 View Post
      Why would you think they would? You can use any standard non FSX:SE add on with Steam Edition. Plus there are many such as myself that are still running the DVD-ROM version of FSX. There are still dozens of releases that are being made with installers for FSX, FSX:SE, and P3Dv1-3, and newer ones including P3Dv4. This very website has an e-store that sells those very items. You're making a mountain out of flat terrain. I say flat because this isn't even remotely a "molehill" issue.

      The TL;DR version: This is not an issue. You are panicking for no reason.

      Thank you for your perspective. There is no panic here, merely an open question. This is raised because there have been attempts in the past to legislate that third party developers be restricted to using steam as an exclusive distribution channel when creating addons for specific titles. Dovetail were linked to that at some level if memory serves me. Right now, new adopters of fsx must go to steam. With ms taking over again, they could theoretically legislate that new fsx addons similarly are only to be distributed by that method and for that edition. Not saying they would, but they could. My post is intended as a shot across the bows to say that some of us in the community remember past discussions about this notion. We did not support it in the past and would not in the future. No mountain came about, but there were people who would have built it if the community had not objected. And yes, I am well aware of the e-store. I owned one of the first ever addon companies for fs a quarter of a century ago.
    1. CRJ_simpilot's Avatar
      CRJ_simpilot -
      They had better not screw this over with steam only add-ons. I'll go P3D if that happens.
    1. ftldave's Avatar
      ftldave -
      Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
      This is raised because there have been attempts in the past to legislate that third party developers be restricted to using steam as an exclusive distribution channel when creating addons [sic] for specific titles.
      "Legislate" ??? Business decisions made by product managers, the suits in corporate boardrooms, has damn little to do with "legislation". Hardly the correct term to use.

      Speculation about what may or may not happen, what may come from Microsoft, at this point is ... just a mental exercise. No one knows ... except maybe some Microsoft "member of management", to use an unintentionally funny Wal-Mart expression.
    1. zswobbie1's Avatar
      zswobbie1 -
      Quote Originally Posted by anaismith View Post
      Wondering if they renege on Lockheed too regarding Prepared either as a whole or in the licensing.
      You, by now, should be aware that in 2009 Lockheed Martin announced that they had negotiated with Microsoft to purchase the intellectual property (including source code) for the Microsoft ESP (Enterprise Simulation Platform) product. Microsoft ESP is the commercial-use version of Flight Simulator X SP2. On May 17, 2010,[15] Lockheed announced that the new product based upon the ESP source code would be called Lockheed Martin Prepar3D (P3D).

      So what they have has nothing to do with what Microsoft licensed Dovetail with, &, as LM has purchased the intellectual property of ESP, there is nothing that Microsoft can do. Ownership is vested with Lockheed Martin.

      All that has happened is that the period term of the contract that Microsoft had with DTG has expired, & the rights of FSX has reverted back to Microsoft.
    1. loki's Avatar
      loki -
      Quote Originally Posted by zswobbie1 View Post
      You, by now, should be aware that in 2009 Lockheed Martin announced that they had negotiated with Microsoft to purchase the intellectual property (including source code) for the Microsoft ESP (Enterprise Simulation Platform) product.
      No, Lockheed only negotiated a licence to continue using and developing the ESP product. They didn't outright purchase the rights.

      https://news.microsoft.com/2009/11/3...o-warfighters/

      Having said that, it doesn't look like Microsoft is interested in getting back into the commercial market. At least not yet.
    1. pilotposer's Avatar
      pilotposer -
      Good news, the bean counters have finally realized the vast number of Flight Simulator enthusiasts that are out there.
    1. Kirk's Avatar
      Kirk -
      (Sorry for the negative tone. Maybe I'm just crabby this morning. )

      I don't like that Microsoft cared so much about their flight sim five years ago that they basically sold it to someone else to clean up the bugs and fix the code and to continue development on it. Now, with what looks to be the popularity of flight sims growing, Microsoft wants back in the market. I don't think they give a flip about their product. I think they care about their bottom line. FSX is my least favorite of the 3 major sims. I don't see recent moves by MS as changing that. On the contrary...
    1. zswobbie1's Avatar
      zswobbie1 -
      Sorry, I got my info from Wiki.
    1. mlavia51's Avatar
      mlavia51 -
      Why can't you load FSX (not Steam) to Win 10?
    1. Kenneth Birdsong's Avatar
      Kenneth Birdsong -
      Quote Originally Posted by CRJ_simpilot View Post
      They had better not screw this over with steam only add-ons. I'll go P3D if that happens.
      No steam for me!
    1. swing8's Avatar
      swing8 -
      It has been how many years since Microsoft fired their ACES team? Microsoft simply sees a product that refuses to die and they want to take advantage of cash flow spent by the FSX and P3D community. I included P3D because it is basically FSX. I do not think it is difficult to get into the mind of Microsoft, just follow the money, that is all that company cares about and FSX is likely seen as a spring board to the next Flight Simulator, at least the fan base will be a spring board or catalyst.

      I could say more, however, few will read my words. Hopefully something good for consumers will come of Microsoft taking control again. Time will tell.
    1. longbreak754's Avatar
      longbreak754 -
      Quote Originally Posted by mlavia51 View Post
      Why can't you load FSX (not Steam) to Win 10?
      You can 'load' boxed versions of FSX into Win 10...….

      I, like many users, have done so.

      If you have a specific issue(s) with getting FSX to run on Win 10 I suggest:

      A. You search the forums for info that might prove useful regarding the issue(s) - there is plenty of info available out there if you search for it.....

      B. If you are unable to find a solution to your issue(s) then open a thread in the dedicated FSX forum....
    1. Keyholebud's Avatar
      Keyholebud -
      Real world weather is back with beta option on steam
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