• Review: C188B AGTruck From Alabeo

    Review: C188B AGTruck From Alabeo

    By Bill Stack

    AGTruck From Alabeo
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    Screen shots by Flysimware

    A Cessna 188B AGTruck is among Cessna Aircraft Company's line of agricultural aircraft. Other variants are called "AGWagon," "AGPickup," and "AGHusky." All date back to the early 1960s, and the last model was produced in the mid 1980s. The 188B was produced between 1971 and 1975. Carrying a 200-US-gallon (760-liter) chemical hopper, the 188B had the lowest capacity of Cessna's AG series. As seen in my comparison chart below, the 188B AGTruck is approximately the same physical size as a Cessna 172 but has a more powerful engine and carries more weight. Note: This model is spelled as one word (AGTruck) on some websites and as two words (AG Truck) on others. I use the version used by Alabeo.

    C188B AGTruck Specifications
    Specification C188B AGTruck1 Cessna 1722
    Maximum Take-off Weight 4,200 LBS
    1,905 KG
    2,550 LBS
    1,157 KG
    Empty Weight 2,220 LBS
    1007 KG
    1,665 LBS
    755 KG
    Useful Load 1,980 LBS
    898 KG
    885 LBS
    401 KG
    Fuel Capacity 54 USG
    204 L
    56 USG
    212 L
    Maximum Speed 158 KIAS
    293 KM/H
    126 KIAS
    203 KM/H
    Cruising Speed 122 KIAS
    226 KPH
    124 KIAS
    200 KPH
    Ceiling 11,100 FT
    3,386 M
    14,000 FT
    4,267 M
    Range 370 NM
    685 KM3
    638 NM
    734 KM
    Length 26 FT
    8 M
    27 FT
    8 M
    Wing Span 42 FT
    13 M
    36 FT
    11 M
    Power 300 HP 180 HP
    Sources:
    C188B - Alabeo, C172 - FSX

    Alabeo says its C188B AGTruck has the following features:

    • Professional flight dynamics
    • Material shines and reflections
    • Custom 3D sounds
    • High quality 3D model, textures and sounds
    • Blank texture for creating your own designs

    The developer also says its C188B AGTruck has the following features unique to crop dusters:

    • Chemical fumigation liquid effects
    • Chemical loader interface
    • Real weight reduction chemical liquid is dropped
    Tags: agtruck, alabeo, c188b

    13 Comments
    1. jhtrim's Avatar
      jhtrim -
      I can get the same information by reading Alabeo's advertisement. A review is supposed to inform us, in an impartial way, what is good or bad about this product. The writer's personal opinion would make it easier to decide to purchase the product or not. This review is just a rehash of the developer's advertisement.
    1. Nels_Anderson's Avatar
      Nels_Anderson -
      Quote Originally Posted by jhtrim View Post
      I can get the same information by reading Alabeo's advertisement. A review is supposed to inform us, in an impartial way, what is good or bad about this product. The writer's personal opinion would make it easier to decide to purchase the product or not. This review is just a rehash of the developer's advertisement.
      Did you read the entire review, or just the first page? The author gives his personal opinion at many points throughout the review and a summary opinion at the end.
    1. blue1820's Avatar
      blue1820 -
      Quote Originally Posted by jhtrim View Post
      I can get the same information by reading Alabeo's advertisement. A review is supposed to inform us, in an impartial way, what is good or bad about this product. The writer's personal opinion would make it easier to decide to purchase the product or not. This review is just a rehash of the developer's advertisement.
      Most likely didn't read page 4,very detailed review here.i will get this one soon.
    1. phantomx1's Avatar
      phantomx1 -
      Wish they would make it for FS9. Looks excellent.
    1. MdMax's Avatar
      MdMax -
      I hope they'll release it for X-Plane. Looks great !
    1. jonathan 972's Avatar
      jonathan 972 -
      We can not download him ??
    1. csefton's Avatar
      csefton -
      Nice little taster review which highlights the VERY high quality and attention Alabeo has put into this beauty!.....I think the first comment the guy only read the 1st page...anyway its definitely on my must have aircraft list now an getting this one!....
    1. repaid22's Avatar
      repaid22 -
      Now *this* is a fine review of what looks to be a fine rendition of the C188B... this is certainly going on my list of must have purchases.

      Funny, months ago I saw a video of a crop duster with a very modern version of what looks to be the same type of plane, at least what I remember was the shape of the canopy, in action.. and boy I wanted to try what that guy was doing. Now I can!!

      I'm surprised that the manufacture did not put a VSI into the cockpit.. but I'm sure the pilots eyes are more on where he/she is going and not fixed on the gauges. I'm sure it would be hard to IFR crop-dust now.. LOL..

      Very well done on the review Sir.. Thank you!
    1. jhtrim's Avatar
      jhtrim -
      Quote Originally Posted by blue1820 View Post
      Most likely didn't read page 4,very detailed review here.i will get this one soon.
      You are right, I didn't even notice a second page. Sorry.
    1. normac's Avatar
      normac -
      I'm sorry, but this review loses ALL credibility as soon as you try to compare the AGTruck to a Cessna 172! They might be physically around the same size, but they have entirely different aerodynamic configurations (low wing versus high), undercarriage (tail-dragger vs tricycle), maximum takeoff weight (4200lbs vs 2550), engine power (300bhp vs 180)... Not to mention their very reason for existing! Need I go on?

      It would have been more helpful to have heard what a fully loaded AGTruck "felt" like in the air when compared to one with an empty hopper, rather than to have a guess at the vertical climb rate after takeoff. Or to hear what happened if you tried to pull too steep a turn - is there a warning stall buffet or does the aircraft just depart into the virtual scenery? Bill, it's only a computer simulation - you really don't need to worry about crashing it! To then summarise by saying that it "performs much like other aircraft its size and weight such as the FSX Cessna 172 and the Extra" merely suggests that the reviewer has little grasp of what this simulation is trying to simulate.

      On a more positive note, at least I learned that the developers didn't bother including any documentation about how to operate such a specialised aircraft which for me is a very serious omission and reason enough not to bother investing in learning how to spray virtual crops.
    1. Glider61's Avatar
      Glider61 -
      I have about 450 hours in a C188 Agwagon (same model but fuel tank in front of the hopper). About 400 of that is Ag time (South Dakota) the rest is glider towing time (New Mexico). So I had to get this. The takeoff is decent and the sound is pretty good in fact much better than I expected. In flight it performs seemingly decent. The landing is nothing like the real thing though. The C188 series is notorious for being squirrelly on the ground. More than one pilot has ground looped and I know of at least one lower time tailwheel pilot that wrecked one. I had a tailwheel cable break during a crosswind landing and ended in the weeds. Fortunately no damage. All in all not a bad flight model and I am glad I bought it. I have not tried the spray feature in this yet but hoep to get some time this weekend to check it out and little more. If it is true to life it will be a pig with 140gal and full fuel. As you get spray off and get down to <100gal it should start to turn decent and have better response. Below 40 gal and it is a real performer. This is in real life so I will try it out and post here again when I do.
    1. billstack's Avatar
      billstack -
      The point of my aircraft comparisons is to give readers a basis for understanding the reviewed aircraft in relation to an aircraft they are familiar with in size, weight, power, and other significant factors. Is it heavier, lighter, shorter, longer, more/less powerful, longer/shorter range, and so forth? And I always use the closest default MSFS aircraft because all MSFS users have them. I am not saying the AG Truck, C172, and Extra are similar aircraft with similar purposes. – Bill Stack

      Quote Originally Posted by normac View Post
      I'm sorry, but this review loses ALL credibility as soon as you try to compare the AGTruck to a Cessna 172! They might be physically around the same size, but they have entirely different aerodynamic configurations (low wing versus high), undercarriage (tail-dragger vs tricycle), maximum takeoff weight (4200lbs vs 2550), engine power (300bhp vs 180)... Not to mention their very reason for existing! Need I go on?

      It would have been more helpful to have heard what a fully loaded AGTruck "felt" like in the air when compared to one with an empty hopper, rather than to have a guess at the vertical climb rate after takeoff. Or to hear what happened if you tried to pull too steep a turn - is there a warning stall buffet or does the aircraft just depart into the virtual scenery? Bill, it's only a computer simulation - you really don't need to worry about crashing it! To then summarise by saying that it "performs much like other aircraft its size and weight such as the FSX Cessna 172 and the Extra" merely suggests that the reviewer has little grasp of what this simulation is trying to simulate.

      On a more positive note, at least I learned that the developers didn't bother including any documentation about how to operate such a specialised aircraft which for me is a very serious omission and reason enough not to bother investing in learning how to spray virtual crops.
    1. destin's Avatar
      destin -
      My 2 cents on this plane and review. Nice review but like the first poster I was wondering where the rest was, lol. But once read it is a good review.

      I recently picked up both the Pawnee Brave and C188 on the Alabeo sale in recent days. Is it me or does the Pawnee really have that much more power to get around the sky? Flying the C188 after having the Pawnee a couple days had me thinking it was an AgTruck for sure because it handled like a big truck in the air. Felt very heavy at default 100% spray load and more than just a casual turn would quickly pull you down towards the ground. Getting up to altitude and speed was some work and was buzzing houses when I used the Pawnee's scenery of Cottonwood to fly that cropdusting mission with the C188.

      Comparing the two planes it was as if the Pawnee had plenty of power but a little too twitchy on the controls making it a handful and generating stalls pretty quickly if not careful. The C188 was opposite in that it seemed underpowered despite flying much more stable and less twitchy but that made it a handful because you had to be careful not to get yourself in a jam as the engine couldn't work hard enough to save you.

      All in all I'm enjoying both planes but they seem to have a radically different flight profile and feel in the air with 100% load. I am not sure the Pawnee is setup right as I sprayed the field and had 100% spray left and landed fairly straightforward. The C188 used up some of its load, was around 70% left after dusting the field but upon returning to land the plane will quickly stall unforgivably if you get too slow on the approach as I did. Even hitting F4 to go full throttle did nothing to stop it simply falling out of the air like a brick. That was a shock.
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