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  5. xxmikexx's Avatar
    I did a little research. There was at least one dive to the Edmund Fitzgeral twenty years ago by some people who were using early versions of what is apparently called "technical diving" gear specifically designed for extreme SCUBA depths.

    Here's a link to a writeup of that incident ...

    I came across other links that hinted at additional dives but found nothing explicit.


    Have you seen the movie "The Abyss"? What do you think about the realism of deep diving equipment of that kind of design? Frankly, it sounds plausible to me, though maybe not for the kind of depths they were showing in the movie.
  6. skylab's Avatar
    >>>"People dive on that wreck. Isn't there a law now forbidding people from going inside the hull?

    NO ONE dives on that wreck. It's in 525 feet of water! There's been a couple of submersables down to take fotos and one removed/replaced the ships bell. The bell is now on display at the Great Lakes Shipwreck Museum on Whitefish Point; A MUST stop for anyone interested who is anywhere near the area. I couldn't leave there without shedding a tear.
  7. xxmikexx's Avatar
    People dive on that wreck. Isn't there a law now forbidding people from going inside the hull?
  8. skylab's Avatar
    Northwestern Mutual Life Insurance Company owned the Edmund Fitzgerald. Take it from there.
  9. xxmikexx's Avatar
    It brings tears to my eyes too. Lightfoot penned perhaps the two most powerful lyrics lines I have ever heard ...

    Does anyone know where the love of God goes
    When the waves turn the minutes to hours.

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  10. skylab's Avatar
    >>>Gordon Lightfoot's "Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" is one of my favorite recordings.

    Mine too. Brings tears to my eyes ever time I hear it.

    >>You say you owned a piece of the ship. You were an investor?

    Yes, albeit a small one. Nevertheless, I owned part of that boat if only a few rivets!!
  11. xxmikexx's Avatar
    Gordon Lightfoot's "Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" is one of my favorite recordings.

    You say you owned a piece of the ship. You were an investor?
  12. skylab's Avatar
    >>>Did you get seasick? (Serious question.)

    Never been seasick in my life. Remember, I was born in water!! I've spent countless hours on the water in my life.

    The one time we had "serious" waves on our way North from New Zealand, I became a little "apprehensive" when we didn't slow down some in the heavy (seemed to me anyway) seas. I was having trouble staying in my bunk. So, I just went up to the Pilot House and spent most of the night up there. Would I have gotten sick had I not gone up there? Who knows. All I could think of for some dumb reason was the sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald (I owned part of THAT boat). Anyway, the heavy seas didn't last much into the next day and all was calm once again.
  13. xxmikexx's Avatar
    Did you get seasick? (Serious question.)
  14. skylab's Avatar
    >>>sky (if I may get familiar ),

    I guess that's alright.

    >>> to hear about ..... your long trip in the containership.

    >>>Did they let you take the helm?

    Oh yes. I've wheeled a couple of ships in the past.

    >>>Did you encounter any storms?

    Nothing too bad. Maybe twenty-foot seas at worst. No real weather. Rain in a couple of ports.

    >>>Did you get to know any of the crew really well? (What were their life stories like?)

    With very few exceptions, I had the same crew for the whole trip. The Captain and Chief Engineer were British and the rest of the crew were from the Philippines. Most were quite young and good sailors. Had some good parites too.

    >>>Did you get down to the engine room?

    Oh ya.....covered the whole boat.

    >>>Where was the ship registered?

    London (England)

    >>>Did the crew speak English?

    Well the Captain and Chief did (obviously!), and the rest of the crew, quite well actually. Had no trouble conversing with any of them. Great bunch of guys.

    As to what did I DO for 75 days? Well, I "helped" them find all the places we went to. I boarded in Savannah, Georgia. From there we sailed to Houston, Manzanillo, through the Panama Canal, Pitcairn Island (of Bounty fame), Auckland, Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane, Wellington, Auckland (2nd call), Pitcairn Island (2nd call), through the Panama Canal again, Kingston, Philadelphia, Norfolk, and back to Savannah.

    I had a GPS system with me that had marine info on it along with charts for the Pacific and other areas that we would be sailing in. The Captain was so impressed with my GPS that he said he was going to get one when he got back to London. I along with the other passengers (never more than nine at any one time) had the run of the ship. So, I spent most of my time in the Pilot House. After all that's where the best view is!

    There was a computer for the crew to use in an office that had MS Flite Sim 2000 on it. So I fiddled with that a little. The Captain after finding out I was a retired airline pilot asked me to teach him how to fly. He was already doing a fair job of it but wanted more info on the nav stuff. So we had "sessions" every now and then and I eventually gave him a "Check Ride". He passed and I printed up a "Certificate" and gave it to him at dinner that night.

    The Captain's wife joined the ship on our 2nd call in Auckland and left with the Captain in Philadelphia where he got off to go on his scheduled leave. We became good friends and both the Captain and his wife visited us in Florida for a few days and we took them to Disney, etc.

    Enough for now.
  15. xxmikexx's Avatar
    sky (if I may get familiar ),

    You and I will certainly cover the aviation stuff, but we've been there before. What I would really like to hear about today is your long trip on the containership.

    After all, once you had counted the containers a few times, what was there to do other than to take your beloved sunset pictures?

    What was the port of origin? The destination? Were you aboard when they loaded? Unloaded? Did you make any intermediate stops?

    Did they let you take the helm?

    Did you encounter any storms?

    Did you get to know any of the crew really well? (What were their life stories like?)

    Did you get down to the engine room?

    Where was the ship registered?

    Did the crew speak English?

    Etc etc etc. If you provide some answers we'll branch the conversation out from there.
    Updated 08-23-2008 at 03:30 PM by xxmikexx
  16. skylab's Avatar
    Correction: I said RPM; I meant CID.
  17. skylab's Avatar
    An aircraft spotter you're not. (smile) You were within 100 RPM (they're 28(eight)Hundreds, and they're on a DC-6, NOT a Connie. While some very early Connies had 2800s, almost all had R-3350s.

    I didn't know one airplane from another back then; they scared me to death. Still do!! But, I think it was an Air Knocker. That's all they made way back then, wasn't it?!?!
  18. xxmikexx's Avatar
    By their oil cooler airscoops shall ye know them ... "Two R-2900s" (or whatever it was called) is Connie, yes?

    I'm having a senior moment and can't retrieve the name of the aircraft you're standing next to as a tyke. Please help. (Is it an Aeronca Whatever?)
  19. skylab's Avatar
    I don't know about "gorgeous", but I must admit there are some pretty good ones if I must say so myself. The beauty of digital cameras is you can just "shoot" away and not worry about it. I think that containership trip I was on I took over 4000 fotos. I had a laptop with me and I would download from the camera and weed out the ones I didn't like. I still had many megs of fotos when I got home. I won't be uploading all those!

    There were a number of sunsets where I tried to capture the "green flash" and I'm still not sure if I ever got one. Lots of good oportunities out on the Pacific though. You said "South Pacific", but there were more than one listed that way. Guess I should've used the Lat/Lon. (smile)

    That was my first experience with using a digital camera (2001). Wish I'd had one all the years I was flying. I enjoy trying to capture/save what the eye sees.

    Glad you enjoyed them. The av ones are up.
  20. xxmikexx's Avatar
    They're gorgeous! "Green Flash" sticks in my mind though there were other equally good shots. (Like "South Pacific", as I recall.)

    Can't wait to see the aviation photos.
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