sotstavr Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Hi, If anyone has downloaded and installed the above panel work by Ken Wigginton, could it be possible to let me know how to make it show the Co-pilot panel ? The author in the readme says it toggles with "W" keypad, but this maybe wrong, as it doesn't work. Thanks for your time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzippy Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I will confirm what the README file says. The panel will change from pilot view to copilot view by hitting the W key. Did you change the default key control setting for the W key? These shots are taken in FSX, so the panel isn't exactly perfect! Pilot view Hitting the W key for the copilot view Still thinking about a new flightsim only computer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotstavr Posted November 2, 2015 Author Share Posted November 2, 2015 The W key brings only the Landing view, but no way the co-pilot's panel. In the readme, did you notice that W shows both Landing view AND co-pilot's panel ? Apparently written by mistake. But which key or key combination would do the job ? And no, I did not change the default function of W key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzippy Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 The W key is a cycling key, when used in default aircraft, will cycle between 2D panel-mini panel-clear view- then back to full 2D panel. I tried all 3 of the panels in the download and they all cycle when hitting the W key from full panel-copilot panel-landing panel-clear view-full panel. (4 hits of the W key) The README is correct when stating the W key brings up the different views. Have you tried cycling through the views by hitting the A key? Still thinking about a new flightsim only computer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotstavr Posted November 2, 2015 Author Share Posted November 2, 2015 No, A key does nothing. The W cycles as follows : landing view-clear-captains panel. It is weird, as co-pilot.bmp and the respective window are contained in panel.cfg. I reinstalled DC-8 panel without the side cockpit views (bmp), but still the problem did not go away. Is there a way to do anything in the panel.cfg to make it show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzippy Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 OK, time to see if we are talking apples and apples not apples and oranges. Is this the download you are using? From the Library here. FS2004 (ACOF) - FS2004 Panels FS2004 Panels For HJG DC-8 [ Download | View ] Name: fs2004_dc-8_panel_project.zip Size: 55,220,837 Date: 10-30-2015 Downloads: 213 FS2004 Panels For HJG DC-8. Three panel sets for the HJG Douglas DC- built on Paul Golding's artwork, edited by the author. Each set includes Captain and First Officer views, GPS, pedestal, overhead, FMC (requires FMC-1.ZIP), radar, pushback, V-speed popup, callouts, independent animated yokes and landing view, along with dual CIVA INS. Package includes simple instructions for editing HJG's line of DC-8 aircraft configs for use with these panels. Not supported by HJG. By Ken Wigginton. Still thinking about a new flightsim only computer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotstavr Posted November 2, 2015 Author Share Posted November 2, 2015 My dear mrzippy there are no apples, oranges and other fruits. The file downloaded and installed is the one you refer to. For some unknown reason co-pilot panel doesn't show and is omitted during W key cycle. I check over and over again the panel.cfg for any discrepancy, but I find nothing wrong. And I say again, the co-pilot.bmp is correctly placed in panel folder. The panel.cfg entry for co-pilot panel is there as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeandpatty Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 In your panel.cfg file, in the VIEWS section, change: VIEW_FORWARD_WINDOWS=Main Panel to VIEW_FORWARD_WINDOWS=Main Panel, MAIN_PANEL_ALT1 That may be the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzippy Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 In your panel.cfg file, in the VIEWS section, change: VIEW_FORWARD_WINDOWS=Main Panel to VIEW_FORWARD_WINDOWS=Main Panel, MAIN_PANEL_ALT1 That may be the problem That may be a good idea! the copilot's window is actually labeled MAIN_PANEL_ALT1. Still thinking about a new flightsim only computer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotstavr Posted November 2, 2015 Author Share Posted November 2, 2015 I did so, but it still did not work. Maybe a parameter change in panel.cfg in the co-pilot entry should be changed : //-------------------------------------------------------- [Window09] file=co-pilot.bmp file_1024=co-pilot.bmp size_mm=800,624 window_size_ratio=1.000 position=0 visible=0 ident=MAIN_PANEL_ALT1 window_size= 1.000, 1.000 window_pos= 0.000, 0.000 zorder=1 but I am not a panel developer to be positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzippy Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I did so, but it still did not work. Maybe a parameter change in panel.cfg in the co-pilot entry should be changed : //-------------------------------------------------------- [Window09] file=co-pilot.bmp file_1024=co-pilot.bmp size_mm=800,624 window_size_ratio=1.000 position=0 visible=0 ident=MAIN_PANEL_ALT1 window_size= 1.000, 1.000 window_pos= 0.000, 0.000 zorder=1 but I am not a panel developer to be positive. For testing purposes, being sure to back up [window09].... maybe visible=0 change to 1 or maybe ident=MAIN_PANEL_ALT1 to ident=12345 Still thinking about a new flightsim only computer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotstavr Posted November 2, 2015 Author Share Posted November 2, 2015 I did so and many more similar changes-tests. With visible=1 co-pilot panel appears but shows over the main panel in the background at flight start. The solution must be simple but only for a developer, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzippy Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I did so and many more similar changes-tests. With visible=1 co-pilot panel appears but shows over the main panel in the background at flight start. The solution must be simple but only for a developer, I think. Did changing the ident= have any affect on showing the copilot view? Still thinking about a new flightsim only computer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotstavr Posted November 2, 2015 Author Share Posted November 2, 2015 Did not quite understand the proposed entry "ident=12345". Do you mean ident=blank or as is ident=12345 ? Anyway, with ident=12345 did not work. Meanwhile, I re-installed once more the whole panel yet with no success. It's one of the most weird situations I have ever had to deal with during my 14-year simming "career". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzippy Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Sorry that none of those attempts at changes helped! Just out of curiosity, if you start with a default aircraft, sit in the 2D cockpit and press the W key, will it cycle normally through the views? Still thinking about a new flightsim only computer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotstavr Posted November 2, 2015 Author Share Posted November 2, 2015 Sure : W-minipanel-clear-main panel (default 737). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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