Logitech throttle and rudder issues

[Aptosflier]

While practicing landing today "at" our local muni airport (and slowly, very slowly getting better at it), I encountered a bug of some kind with my throttle lever. Sitting on the runway prior to takeoff, the throttle was unresponsive. The engine was at 2500-plus rpms no matter whether I pushed the lever forward or pulled it back. I "escaped" the flight to check the control axes and they were working. I went back to the main menu, reselected the airport, etc. and started a new flight. This time the throttle worked properly. In another instance (or two), while taxiing subsequent to landing, I was unable the throttle back the engine. Again, no matter how I pushed, pulled the throttle lever, the rpms were stubbornly stuck at around 2500 and the plane took off from the taxiway. (Good thing I wasn't flying in a real-world/multiplayer situation.) That would've been embarrassing. Anyway, has anybody else run into a problem like this with their Logitech throttle quadrant?

 

Second, I'm having a devil of a time with my rudder pedals. Again, while taxiing, I end up with the Cessna 152 weaving around like a drunken sailor. I'm either applying too much rudder, or my physical setting on the pedal dial and/or my settings in the sim are too sensitive. Recommendations, anyone?

[sfojimbo]

One thing that could possibly be that cause of your throttle problem is that there may be a double assignment of throttle control. Go to controls --> power --> throttle with the filter set to all and make sure that the only throttle assignment is the one you are using: the throttle quadrant. You'll have to do this for your yoke or joystick too, lest one of those buttons are assigned to the throttle. If there is something else controlling the throttle delete it.

 

Asobo has made ground control too squirrely, we need to have the rudder sensitivity detuned, I have both the plus and minus set at -60% and it's still far too touchy on the runway. Real planes are happy to track straight ahead if there's no crosswind.

[Aptosflier]

One thing that could possibly be that cause of your throttle problem is that there may be a double assignment of throttle control.

I checked; throttle control is limited to my Logitech throttle quadrant, which is paired with my yoke. I started a flight today (at O'Hare for a change), and the Cessna was at full throttle from the get-go. And, sitting on the runway, it remained at full throttle. The plane didn't respond, no matter what I did with the throttle quadrant lever. So I "escaped" the flight, returned to the main menu, started a new flight at KORD, and now the throttle worked as it was supposed to.

 

So this looks to be some sort of software glitch. I didn't have this problem when I started using MSFS 2020 a couple of weeks or so ago. (And ditto for my rudder issues; I was able to taxi without problems at first.) I'd like to know if anyone else using the Logitech yoke/rudder combination has experienced anything like this.

[g7rta]

Hi Steve,

I agree with sfojimbo. It does sound like you’ve got a duplicate assignment. I know you’ve checked if the throttle axis is duplicated somewhere... but have you checked all the controls associated with the throttle?

For example... there are settings for “throttle 90%”... “full throttle 1”... etc. just a thought.

Another possibility.... could the copilot be in control?

 

Regards

Steve

[Aptosflier]

Hi Steve,

...have you checked all the controls associated with the throttle?

For example... there are settings for “throttle 90%”... “full throttle 1”... etc. just a thought.

Another possibility.... could the copilot be in control?

 

Regards

Steve

Where would I find specific settings for throttle percentages in MSFS? As for the copilot, he was so upset with my flying, he bailed out.

[g7rta]

Where would I find specific settings for throttle percentages in MSFS? As for the copilot, he was so upset with my flying, he bailed out.

 

I don’t blame your copilot LOL

If you go into the control setting page & search “throttle”and it’ll list them all.

 

Regards

Steve

[Aptosflier]

If you go into the control setting page & search “throttle”and it’ll list them all.

 

Regards

Steve

Steve,

I searched throttle settings and found multiple options, but the fields were all empty--except for throttle axis L, where, when I move the throttle forward and backward I see a sliding white bar. So it doesn't look to me as if there are any conflicting throttle settings. I think it's some sort of bug in my software, for which there looks to be a consistent workaround: If the throttle is either unresponsive or working incorrectly at the start of a flight, I "escape" from the flight, return to the main menu and start a new flight, which seems to clear it up.

Steve

[g7rta]

Sorry we haven’t solved it yet Steve, was worth a try.

I’ll let you know if I come up with anything else

 

Regards

Steve

[sfojimbo]

Steve,

I searched throttle settings and found multiple options, but the fields were all empty--except for throttle axis L,

Did you do that same check on the other devices, especially the yoke?

[Aptosflier]

Did you do that same check on the other devices, especially the yoke?

My throttle quadrant came packaged with the yoke and is attached to the yoke via a PS/2 cable, so its inputs go through the yoke. It doesn't have its own USB connection, and hence it doesn't show up as a separate peripheral in controls, the way the USB-connected rudder pedals do. All the settings for the yoke and the throttle quadrant are in the same place.

[chicagorandy]

Just my 'dumb guy' suggestion. Go to that controls section and un-assign Throttle Axis L. The Re-assign that same quadrant lever to it. If there are any conflicts the screen will display them. Save changes and see if that helps?

 

That's all I got, sorry.

[Aptosflier]

Just my 'dumb guy' suggestion. Go to that controls section and un-assign Throttle Axis L. The Re-assign that same quadrant lever to it. If there are any conflicts the screen will display them. Save changes and see if that helps?

 

That's all I got, sorry.

I'll give it a try. There's a consistent pattern here: I start my first flight of the day; the throttle is either stuck at max RPMs or the engine cuts out. I exit the flight and return to the main menu. I start a new flight and now the throttle works. This problem is not unique to me. A member of another forum has reported the same issue with his Logitech throttle quadrant. I wonder if it's idiosyncratic with Logitech throttles like mine that are bundled with yokes, and therefore must send their inputs to a PC through the Yoke, via PS/2 cables, instead of being directly connected to a PC via USB cable. Perhaps some bit of information is missing when you first start a flight, but is available on a second try?

 

I learned from experience that it's not a good idea to connect my Logitech flight panels to my desktop through the yoke's USB hub, as convenient as that might seem. For one thing, the hub doesn't provide sufficient power to the panels. But now I'm also questioning how well the yoke can "upstream" data to the desktop from a connected peripheral like the throttle quadrant.

[chicagorandy]

My Logitech throttle quadrant and my Thrustmaster rudder pedals plug into the Logitech yoke system and then its 1 USB cable to my desktop. It does not have the necessary power to add the PS3 controller I use for the drone so I plug that into a separate desktop USB port.

 

No conflicts, power or control issues, works great in fact.

[Aptosflier]

My Logitech throttle quadrant and my Thrustmaster rudder pedals plug into the Logitech yoke system...

I have the Logitech rudder pedals. I'm having trouble taxiing with them lately. They worked flawlessly at first; right was right, and left was left. But more recently, I have to work them very gingerly, or else the planes weave all over the place. Taxiing has become harder than landing. I reduced the sensitivity settings to try to counter this. I'm open to any setting suggestions.