jaeger52 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Most addon aircraft today come with self-installation software included. How I miss the days when one could simply copy and paste aircraft into the FSX Aircraft folder, because for whatever reason, these installers have never worked for me. When I click on the self-installer icon in any given new aircraft download, I ALWAYS get the following error message pop-up thingie: Sorry, an error has occurred. The application could not be installed because the installer file is damaged. Try obtaining a new installer file from the application author. Can anyone give me a work around to this damnable, recurring problem? Many thanks, jaeger52 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingnorris Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Payware, some can still be installed the "old way". Freeware, the "old way" is the ONLY recommended way of installing. CLX - SET Gaming Desktop - Intel Core i9 10850K - 32GB DDR4 3000GHz Memory - GeForce RTX 3060 Ti - 960GB SSD + 4TB HDD - Windows 11 Home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallcott Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Most addon aircraft today come with self-installation software included. How I miss the days when one could simply copy and paste aircraft into the FSX Aircraft folder, because for whatever reason, these installers have never worked for me. When I click on the self-installer icon in any given new aircraft download, I ALWAYS get the following error message pop-up thingie: Sorry, an error has occurred. The application could not be installed because the installer file is damaged. Try obtaining a new installer file from the application author. Can anyone give me a work around to this damnable, recurring problem? Many thanks, jaeger52 Yes. At some point in the past you installed an inappropriate Adobe update that broke the .air file relationship. This is donkeys years old problem and a solution is easily found: Disassociate the .air file from Adobe and you should be able to install. The solution to your `damnable, recurring problem` is not to make the same mistake again. And use the search function of Google on the error message itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandersonpc Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I rename my real fsx folder and create a new one with original name. After install I can rename and zip the new folder, rename the real folder back to the original, and do copy/copies to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f16jockey_2 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Yes. At some point in the past you installed an inappropriate Adobe update that broke the .air file relationship. This is donkeys years old problem and a solution is easily found: Disassociate the .air file from Adobe and you should be able to install. That's a fairy tale. The Adobe association NEVER prevented any version of FS of using an FDE. To OP: Leave the "Installer Package" as it is. Just don't click it. You have lots of trouble ahead when you continue randomly clicking on unknown file types. Wim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSkorna Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Most addon aircraft today come with self-installation software included. How I miss the days when one could simply copy and paste aircraft into the FSX Aircraft folder, because for whatever reason, these installers have never worked for me. When I click on the self-installer icon in any given new aircraft download, I ALWAYS get the following error message pop-up thingie: Sorry, an error has occurred. The application could not be installed because the installer file is damaged. Try obtaining a new installer file from the application author. Can anyone give me a work around to this damnable, recurring problem? Many thanks, jaeger52 Hi, 1. Adobe Air associations have never caused an installation error, only problems editing certain FS files. 2. Make sure your Windows Installer is up to date. 3. Try a download and install with your AV turned off. 4. Post the exact name of a file that you are having trouble with and someone can test it out. http://www.air-source.us/images/sigs/000219_195_jimskorna.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringBean Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 OK, let's clear this up. jaeger52, where are you seeing this installer? Do you download a file, unzip it and see an installer? Or do you unzip it and see an airplane folder with some folders in it named model, panel, texture along with an aircraft.cfg file and an installer? Does the installer have a big brown icon? If this is the installer you are talking about then malcott is semi-correct. The simple answer is, forget about the installer file, it really is not an installer. Windows thinks it is, Flight Simulator knows better and will use that file for what it is intended. There is no harm here, the plane will work OK assuming there are no other problems and you can click on that "installer" all day long and nothing is ever going to happen. peace, the Bean WWOD---What Would Opa Do? Farewell, my freind (sp) Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il88pp Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Stringbean? Trying to follow this, do you mean that, because of some adobe thingy, win gives .air files an installer icon?? You aren't talking about an exe, correct? :confused: (confused, I look for extensions myself, not icons.) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f16jockey_2 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 This was already covered years ago. Association caused by "Adobe AIR" (google it if interested). Completely harmless for FSX. http://i789.photobucket.com/albums/yy176/buffalo2602/ScreenHunter_03%20Feb.%2025%2002.49_zpsoqd52o7d.jpg Wim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il88pp Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Ah, so it is still an .air file, but says installer package in the description. Not what I expected, but all clear now. Never heard of that. Thanks Wim:), il88pp [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringBean Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Ever double click on a file with the .txt extension and have Notepad open automatically? Windows keeps a list of every file extension on your PC. Included in that list is the program "associated" with that extension. This is how Windows knows to open .txt files with Notepad. Not all extensions have programs associated with them by default. Microsoft never associated the .air files with any program. Adobe has in their suite a program called Adobe Air which is one of those programs that runs in the background next to your web browser and is used by some websites to display content, sorta like Flash. When Adobe Air gets installed on your PC (often without you knowing it) it associates .air files with Adobe Air. For the record, this has zero impact on Flight Simulator, zero. With a big 0. The only thing that happens is the icon and file description for the .air file get changed. Nothing happens to the file itself and Flight Simulator does not give a rats ass what the icon and file description are. This causes confusion to those that do not understand what has happened and they sit there and click on the "installer" expecting something to happen. If you want to change the file association, you can. I would not be surprised to see it changed back to Adobe Air if AA updates itself. The best thing to do is know about it, recognize that it has no impact on FS and move on. peace, the Bean WWOD---What Would Opa Do? Farewell, my freind (sp) Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il88pp Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Yes, I knew about file associations, and I can see it can get confusing in this case. For those situations I use a little program called: defaultprogramseditor, http://defaultprogramseditor.com/ With that you can change the default program that opens a file type, you can change the Icon, or both. As you prefer. Using that, I set it up so the .cfg files and the .txt files both automatically open with notepad, but still have there normal, different Icons. (When I told Windows to "Always open .cfg files with notepad", all their icons changed. With DefaultProgramsEditor I changed the Icons back!) DefaultProgramsEditor comes in a .zip, only needs unzipping and works. No install required. Thanks for your info, good to know. il88pp [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefu Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Payware, some can still be installed the "old way". Freeware, the "old way" is the ONLY recommended way of installing. There are many addons out there with installers that only "unzip" the files to the folder. what i usually do is just install the addon on anothe folder to check the files and if there is a risk of rewriting on default files. there are big risks, if the installer doesnt automatically make backups. but sure "the old way" is the best, but then again, you have to familiar yourself to what the different fsx folders contain. and, if you buy new oranges allways "keep the old oranges in your fridge if they're still good" ALLWAYS MAKE BACKUPS ! its not something you succeed from the get go.. :rolleyes: FSX ACCELERATION, ASUS P5QPL VM EPU-INTEL E8400-3GHZ-DDR2RAM4GO-WINDOWS7SP1 -GT220GEFORCE if you never wonder about something, its because you know everything....:rolleyes: :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallcott Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Ever double click on a file with the .txt extension and have Notepad open automatically? Windows keeps a list of every file extension on your PC. Included in that list is the program "associated" with that extension. This is how Windows knows to open .txt files with Notepad. Not all extensions have programs associated with them by default. Microsoft never associated the .air files with any program. Adobe has in their suite a program called Adobe Air which is one of those programs that runs in the background next to your web browser and is used by some websites to display content, sorta like Flash. When Adobe Air gets installed on your PC (often without you knowing it) it associates .air files with Adobe Air. For the record, this has zero impact on Flight Simulator, zero. With a big 0. The only thing that happens is the icon and file description for the .air file get changed. Nothing happens to the file itself and Flight Simulator does not give a rats ass what the icon and file description are. This causes confusion to those that do not understand what has happened and they sit there and click on the "installer" expecting something to happen. If you want to change the file association, you can. I would not be surprised to see it changed back to Adobe Air if AA updates itself. The best thing to do is know about it, recognize that it has no impact on FS and move on. peace, the Bean Given your persistent reference to Opa, you should be ashamed that you are directly contradicting his sage advice. As for the `zero impact` on FS statement. Thank you for proving what I said the other day that advice given in this forum is not always correct: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_other-gaming/fsx-and-air-adobe/d246c9e6-5c16-4a4c-b268-1358fc0cf51c Impact. Immutably. The error usually occurs because the air file association has been passed to Adobe, but is not in a recognised format. Solution is to remove Adobe Air and/or the file association so that Adobe doesn't try to run an application file that it doesn't recognise the context for. Further clarification is easily obtainable by putting the error message directly into Google Search and reading the hundreds of topics across dozens of applications that were affected by this issue. Including FS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringBean Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Given your persistent reference to Opa, you should be ashamed that you are directly contradicting his sage advice. What advice of Opa's am I contradicting? As for the `zero impact` on FS statement. What impact does the file association have on FS except changing the .air file icon and description in Windows Explorer, or File Explorer for the Win8 folks? How does it change the way that FS works or performs? peace, the Bean WWOD---What Would Opa Do? Farewell, my freind (sp) Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il88pp Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 I think mallcott means that opening the airfile with adobe by mistake can corrupt the file, requiring a reinstall of fsx. (Only if you don't have a backup of course.) I've seen similar issues when I changed a file extension, then tried to open a file with a different program, then closing and changing the extension back. (not sure, I think I tried opening a .bgl or .air with notepad that way once and found it didn't work afterwards). I think that issue was caused by changing the extension, as not all the symbols in the file are available in the other filetype, they get substituted by other symbols, which corrupts the file. Following this with interest;) (ps. keep it clean guys:)) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f16jockey_2 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 ...when I changed a file extension, then tried to open a file with a different program, then closing and changing the extension back... Now that's a tricky thing to do indeed. Don't try this at home I'd say. But fortunately off topic, as Adobe doesn't do anything with the file, even when you click it. Wim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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