Inflight issue when moving the mouse pointer to any other opened window.

[PEIRascal]

First off I have had no problems with the download or install of either the original program or the update today.

 

But, I do have a very unusual issue that I have not seen mentioned here.

 

I normally have the ATC window and the map open while flying right now but, if I move my mouse to either of these windows I lose all control of the aircraft. Most times it heads to the left and down. This loss of control is very severe most times As soon as I move the mouse out of the other window I regain full control. This happens when in full screen mode, windowed mode, when the other windows are on the main screen or either of the other 2 screens I have connected.

 

Anyone else have this sort of issue. I am thinking I have something in the sim set wrong.

 

Systems specs in my signature. Have the Premium edition.

 

Thanks on advance for any suggestions.

 

Hal

[joe120]

Yes I am having the same issue. It makes the ATC unusable, since every time you click on an option in the ATC window the aircraft dives even with autopilot engaged. I haven't seen any other posts on this and would be curious who else is dealing with it, or what we maybe doing wrong.

[PEIRascal]

I have seen the issue on the official MSFS support pages. Cannot supply a link right now.

 

I have a ticket posted on Zendesk.

 

Some people are reporting that they have to click back in the main sim window, but all I have to do to regain control is move my mouse pointer out of the ATC window. (or which ever window you are accessing). Also, I do not have to click in the ATC or other window. Just move my mouse to within it's space and control is gone.

 

I have tried it in windowed mode and full screen mode. Same thing. Move the mouse to the other open window and controls cease to function. I can interact with windows that are not associated with MSFS. I use the Littlenav map server on my main machine and the application on a networked computer. I also run the task manager and a core temp app by times and can interact with all of these apps without losing control.

 

Because I use a 3 monitor set-up, I generally move these other open windows to one of the other monitors, away from the main sim window. This issue exists whether the windows are on the main monitor or moved to a remote monitor.

 

The two main things that I use that make it unflyable are the ATC window and the Checklist window. The problem exists in all child windows and I have noticed it in every aircraft I have tried.

 

Sure hope it ranks a fix in one of the upcoming updates (patches).

 

Hal

[Kapitan]

Have you guys checked Options, Controls, Mouse?

 

And see if your Axis (ailerons, rudder, etc) is assigned to MOUSE ?

 

I dont have that problem. And in Controls-Mouse i only have Radios and Camera presets

[PEIRascal]

Thanks for the suggestion Kapitan,

 

I will check that out shortly. I have looked at most of the settings thinking I had something set wrong because this issue has not popped up very often.

 

I was chatting with one of the Alpha testers after the release, and this issue stumped him. He had never seen it and did not have it.

 

What I have done to test it is:

Sitting parked on the ground, open the ATC, map and checklist windows. while moving the mouse to one of these windows I will operate the yoke. As soon as my mouse pointer hits one of the windows, the yoke no longer operates. I can reproduce this 100% of the time. As soon as the mouse leaves the window, control returns.

 

As stated in my previous post, I can interact with any and all windows that are not a child of the flight sim with no control loss.

 

I will report back when I check what I have that might be bound to the mouse in my controls.

 

Hal

[PEIRascal]

Kapitan,

 

Did not see anything in my settings for the mouse. They are the default set up when I installed the sim.

 

Just come basic camera settings.

 

Here is a short video that shows the issue:

 

 

Hal

[Kapitan]

I see

could tou post a video or print of the Controls, Mouse ?

and make sure the FIlTER "ALL" is applied

 

as you can see mine is all blank

[PEIRascal]

Under Flight Control Surfaces, mine is exactly the same as yours.

 

The only things assigned to the mouse are some of the Camera views.

 

Hal

Edited September 6, 2020 by PEIRascal
Correction

[Kapitan]

ok, lets see what else

 

Is your mouse wifi? usb? where is the dongle? some dongles cant be put in a Usb 3 because they could interfere. Have you tried changing usb.

 

Go to the same situation in your video with secondary windows open and while moving the mouse and seeing elevator and aileron rudder move, unplug your joystick from the usb and keep moving the mouse to see if control surfaces move. If they do we know there is no conflict with the joystick

[PEIRascal]

ok, lets see what else

 

Is your mouse wifi? usb? where is the dongle? some dongles cant be put in a Usb 3 because they could interfere. Have you tried changing usb.

Mouse is USB, plugged into USB 2 port.

 

Go to the same situation in your video with secondary windows open and while moving the mouse and seeing elevator and aileron rudder move, unplug your joystick from the usb and keep moving the mouse to see if control surfaces move. If they do we know there is no conflict with the joystick

I think I have checked that, but I will fire up MSFS again and go through this again.

Hooked up to the system are the following controls:

Ch Eclipse Yoke - Configured and working

CG Pro Pedals - Working correctly

Thrustmaster T16000M Flight Stick - Has default assignments

Thrustmaster RWCS Throttle - Has mostly default assignments. One or two custom

Mouse

Keyboard

I do not have any of the Hat Switches programed as yet.

 

I am a FSUIPC user and am waiting for an update on FSUIPC7 for MSFS

 

Not comparing, but, I have all my controls configured for FSX. Three different profiles GA, Airliners and Fighters. I am still using FSX for Virtual airlines (I normally fly a CRJ700). I have a small fleet - Cessna 172. FA18,and CRJ700 all painted with the same basic color scheme for the local Junior Hockey team. I fly all away games in the yearly schedule. You can see the fleet on my Youtube page.

 

My Channel

 

Your interest and help is appreciated.

 

Hal

[PEIRascal]

Just a bit of an update to this thread. I just made a bit of a discovery that might help those who use more than 1 monitor like I do.

 

If you have read the thread you will see that I lose all controls of the aircraft when I move my mouse to any opened child window of the Sim. Whether on the main monitor or one of the additional monitors.

 

What I just found out is that control loss only happens if you undock the window to move it to another monitor.

 

This video will show:

[Srock]

I have the same issue when moving window to a separate monitor. I work around this by using numerical options for atc ,but on map or navlog , I pause the flight use the window and then make sure my mouse pointer is back on the main window and unpause. Very annoying and hope it will get fixed.

 

Steve