ColR1948 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I recently had a small problem, I downloaded an RAF airfield Eshott that crashed my sim when I selected it. Moving on I thought I found the problem, I had already installed in my sim a fictional airfield from UKMil in Northumberland the same area as Eshott. So I went through the procedure of deleting it from my sim, I did it the correct way by removing it via the sim first then manually by deleting it when the sim was shutdown. I tried to install Eshott again and still it crashed the sim, so then I decided to put back the UKMil airfield, when I selected that the sim crashed again, so after all this I deleted that as well, so both are now gone. Then yesterday I fired up the sim at another airfield only to see an ai leaving for UKMil in Northumberland, I looked in FSNavigater and it is there on the map, but it isn't in the airport selection menu. So I'm now thinking some sort of glitch from the previous installs was causing the sim to crash when I selected that airfield, so why is the AI still flying there and why is it in FSNaviagor when it theory it has been deleted? Col. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger1962 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Hi Col, sometimes a scenery will include a "flatten" .bgl, which will be installed into Scenery\World\scenery, but which won't show up in your scenery library. These files are usually just a duplicate AFCAD, so they're easy to find, but they can cause CTD issues as you've described. Maybe FSNav is still detecting this file. Tim Wright "The older I get, the better I was..." Xbox Series X, Asus Prime H510M-K, Intel Core i5-11400F 4.40GHz, 16Gb DDR4 3200, 2TB WD Black NVME SSD, 1TB Samsung SATA SSD NVidia RTX3060 Ti 8Gb, Logitech Flight Yoke System, CH Pro Pedals, Acer K272HL 27", Windows 11 Home x64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColR1948 Posted December 18, 2019 Author Share Posted December 18, 2019 Hi Tim, I did a search plus I searched using 'Search Everything' tool but drew a blank, what I should have done is follow that ai and see what happens. I was always under the impression that an ai vanishes if the destination airfield doesn't exist, the traffic file for it is still there so I will activate it and see, will report back shortly. Col. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnhinson Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I tried to install Eshott again and still it crashed the sim, so then I decided to put back the UKMil airfield, when I selected that the sim crashed again, so after all this I deleted that as well, so both are now gone. Then yesterday I fired up the sim at another airfield only to see an ai leaving for UKMil in Northumberland, I looked in FSNavigater and it is there on the map, but it isn't in the airport selection menu. So I'm now thinking some sort of glitch from the previous installs was causing the sim to crash when I selected that airfield, so why is the AI still flying there and why is it in FSNaviagor when it theory it has been deleted? Col. You probably have deleted it fine. It will remain in FS Navigator until you update the database - have you done that? AI aircraft will happily fly to non-existent airfields, they just de-materialise when they get there - and re-materialise when its time to go home. You should bear in mind though that some sceneries install odd files in with the default files (and even sometimes over-write default files) and these can be easily overlooked during a manual removal. It is often worth checking the original install file provided to make sure all files are traced and removed. John http://www.adventure-unlimited.org My co-pilot's name is Sid and he's a star! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColR1948 Posted December 18, 2019 Author Share Posted December 18, 2019 Thanks John mate, I just followed the AI with Traffic View Board, it flew all the way and descended to 2.300ft near where it should start to turn to make a landing etc, but it just kept on flying over the coast and headed out to sea, I left it half half way across the North Sea lol. I fully expected it to vanish as you said, maybe if I stayed with it a bit longer it might have done. Like you say, I will search for any other files the install may have left behind. Col. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColR1948 Posted December 18, 2019 Author Share Posted December 18, 2019 How long does FSNav take to refresh the data, it's been on Africa now for ages? Col. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hgschnell Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Sometimes FSNavDBC "loops". Hava a looK: https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/261946-fsnav/page/3/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColR1948 Posted December 19, 2019 Author Share Posted December 19, 2019 Thanks hg and John Hinson, that did it, I moved Africa up one place then did the refresh, it whizzed through no problem, then restarted FS and the non existing airport was no longer showing. Col. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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