FSX to P3D v4.3

[benibaz]

Hello all,I am thinking of changing over to P3D from FSX and would like to know if I can keep my existing FSX files and transfer them over to P3D.Is this possible.Thanks.benibaz.

[W2DR]

Some FSX add-ons will work with P3D and some will not. See this link and notice the other links there which point to more compatibility lists: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NqrnrO-LOna7TWBYwC2PNfqlFrlyUNRa0E2VLkwpK1o/edit#gid=1423092427

[benibaz]

Some FSX add-ons will work with P3D and some will not. See this link and notice the other links there which point to more compatibility lists: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NqrnrO-LOna7TWBYwC2PNfqlFrlyUNRa0E2VLkwpK1o/edit#gid=1423092427

 

Thanks W2DR,I will look at the compatability list you have provided.benibaz.

[evm]

Please be mindful that there is compatible and then there is compatible.

 

People will tell you that an addon is "working fine", while being completely unaware that it has a boatload of content errors. You won't notice them right away, maybe never, but they are there - and they can bite you, with crashes, stutters and hold-ups. But every user can turn on the content error log in P3D and check compatibility for themselves.

 

Scenery usually works, except when it uses things like AES. None of the FSX aircraft that are using programmatic gauges (DLLs) will work in P3D V4.3. Aircraft models that were made for FS9 and then ported over to FSX are often completely invisible. No external addon/tool will work if it isn't based on SimConnect alone. (For example, you will have to buy stuff like FSUIPC again, plus all PMDG and A2A aircraft)

[benibaz]

Please be mindful that there is compatible and then there is compatible.

 

People will tell you that an addon is "working fine", while being completely unaware that it has a boatload of content errors. You won't notice them right away, maybe never, but they are there - and they can bite you, with crashes, stutters and hold-ups. But every user can turn on the content error log in P3D and check compatibility for themselves.

 

Scenery usually works, except when it uses things like AES. None of the FSX aircraft that are using programmatic gauges (DLLs) will work in P3D V4.3. Aircraft models that were made for FS9 and then ported over to FSX are often completely invisible. No external addon/tool will work if it isn't based on SimConnect alone. (For example, you will have to buy stuff like FSUIPC again, plus all PMDG and A2A aircraft)

 

Thanks evm for the info.benibaz.

[UPHILL3]

Perhaps you should take a quick look at the other Forum site re: The many the issues and complaints from P3D v4.3 users over the past year or so before you purchase it - it might help with your decision.

[Gabriel.myburgh]

Hi, I changed over to P3D4 six months ago and have had a problem free experience. Updates to v3 etc easy with good clear instructions. I have been using win 10 since it's inception also with very few problems. You do need FSUIPC 5 for P3D and also need to repurchase PMDG and A2A.

Important to add most addons to a special addon files and not in the main program as with FSX. No Ooms !

I also have most Orbix GSX etc, no issues.

After many years of FSX I now am happy with my sim and FPS which I keep locked at 30

Gabrie

[mallcott]

Hello all,I am thinking of changing over to P3D from FSX and would like to know if I can keep my existing FSX files and transfer them over to P3D.Is this possible.Thanks.benibaz.

 

Why? If you are not experiencing OOM errors then FSX (With Addons) is very similar to P3D4.3.

 

You will NOT be able to just port things over - you're comparing a 32-bit simulator with a 64-bit simulator for a start; there are numerous differences between the two sims and then some are simply not compatible and never can be - Although the document referred to earlier does apply to earlier versions it does not compare v4.3 which may be different.

[MrUnSavory]

I have been with P3D since V2. Here is my experience:

 

Pros:

1. No tweaking to be done. It just works right out of the box.

2. No OOM's

3. DirectX 11 Providing Wonderful eye candy.

4. 64 bit platform allowing developers to now step out of the box they had been forced into with FSX.

5. Easy to upgrade as new versions are released without having to reinstall every addon you own.

6. Not for everyone maybe but, it has native VR they are always making advances in. No need for an external program to run VR like FlyInside.

 

Cons:

1. When patches are released sometimes when fixing something they break something else. Luckily if you keep your previous version installs it is easy to roll back within minutes if you don't like the new patch.

2. Can take some time to get a new patch as they are rolled out fairly slowly.

3. You will need to repurchase FSUIPC if you use high end aircraft other wise there is still a free 64 bit version.

 

Don't get me wrong. I still have FSX installed but I rarely if ever use it. P3D has been such a joy and I spend more time flying then fixing. Is it perfect? NOPE! But it is a huge step forward. It also has a forum with REAL developers of the code instead of depending on 3rd party forums. Many of the developers upgraded their addon's to work within P3DV4.

 

Here is my advice.......RESEARCH RESEARCH RESEARCH! $60 US is a lot to spend on something so don't go in to it with only half the information. :)

 

Good luck on your quest and blue sky's to you. :)

 

Ross G.

[jorgen.s.andersen]

I got P3D v. 4.1, upgraded to 4.2 and now 4.3 without any issues at all.

 

It is not correct, however, that no tweaking is needed, indeed there are several tweaking guidelines out there, and the tweaks actually have some effect. Google is your friend for those guidelines.

 

It is correct that if you want FSUIPC for P3D v. 4.x, then you will have to purchase v. 5 of FSUIPC.

 

Jorgen

[Rupert]

I got P3D v. 4.1, upgraded to 4.2 and now 4.3 without any issues at all.

 

It is not correct, however, that no tweaking is needed, indeed there are several tweaking guidelines out there, and the tweaks actually have some effect. Google is your friend for those guidelines.

 

It is correct that if you want FSUIPC for P3D v. 4.x, then you will have to purchase v. 5 of FSUIPC.

 

Jorgen

 

+1! I have both FSX and P3D 4.3 and find the ORBX scenery works fine with both. But P3D is not perfect off the download anymore than FSX is. I did several tweaks to get the latest 4.3 version to work as well as my already tweaked FSX does.

 

Mostly I fly FSX because I much prefer the way the scenery, sky, etc. appear using the same scenery with FSX. Plus, assuming you also have Acceleration, there are a bucket load more default aircraft. I'm not into buying aircraft when my default FSX planes work so well.

 

If I had it to do over again, I'd just spend my money on more scenery for FSX. With a fast Intel chip I can't remember the last time I had a OOM issue with FSX. And I have a ton of add-on scenery and my sliders are stuck far right!!

 

If you want to see how my FSX scenery looks, without errors, check out my posts on the FS Screenshot forum. I just posted one a few minutes ago of landing at Toronto City Centre Airport. Hard as I try, I haven't been able to get P3D to look that good! :o

 

Remember DIFFERENT STROKES FOR DIFFERENT FOLKS! ;)

[MrUnSavory]

I have heard there are some people tweaking it. Many responses to those people in the forums though are they are not needed and actually can create further problems. Either way I have gone the route of just letting the code do what it is designed to do and it is one less thing I need to deal with. If tweaking works for others that is awesome! I figure as long as I am happy with it I shouldn't break it......LOL! :)

 

Ross G.

[CRJ_simpilot]

You might be interested in this, though I have no experience with.

 

https://www.fspilotshop.com/fsx-prepar3d-migration-tool-p-3879.html?osCsid=972d5d6sku1o80qh5elgsoa844

 

It says it's not been tested for P3D 4, but bookmark that link and check back every so often.

[benibaz]

Why? If you are not experiencing OOM errors then FSX (With Addons) is very similar to P3D4.3.

 

You will NOT be able to just port things over - you're comparing a 32-bit simulator with a 64-bit simulator for a start; there are numerous differences between the two sims and then some are simply not compatible and never can be - Although the document referred to earlier does apply to earlier versions it does not compare v4.3 which may be different.

 

Hello mallcott,the reason why I am considering changing over to P3Dv4 is because it is neccesary for the FFS(Full Flight Simulator) I intend to purchase(TRC Simulators TRC472-A C172),if there is an alternative FFS that supports FSX then I would obviously choose that one(any suggestions?).Another reason to purchase a FFS is because over forty years ago I used to fly real world a/c and now because of my health issues would not pass my medical to continue real world flying.benibaz.

[mallcott]

Hello mallcott,the reason why I am considering changing over to P3Dv4 is because it is neccesary for the FFS(Full Flight Simulator) I intend to purchase(TRC Simulators TRC472-A C172),if there is an alternative FFS that supports FSX then I would obviously choose that one(any suggestions?).Another reason to purchase a FFS is because over forty years ago I used to fly real world a/c and now because of my health issues would not pass my medical to continue real world flying.benibaz.

 

The FFS you intend to buy is FSX and P3D-compliant BUT FOR 32-Bit flight simulation ONLY

http://www.simkits.com/support/

 

So the question is fundamentally incorrect. Your FSX aircraft need only be compliant with P3Dv3 and below.

 

You'd need to look at historic information to check for compliance with such an old version of the sim. Meanwhile the advice stands - FSX is designed to work with the FFS (it says) and introducing potential issues with expensive software by cross-fertilisation is fraught with possible errors...

 

You should ensure you are fully conversant with the hardware and software before stumping out that amount of cash!

[jorgen.s.andersen]

Everyone comtemplating going to P3D needs to do something that could be considered boring: read all you can about it - this august forum, the P3D forum on this site, the official Lockheed Martin P3D forum, AVSIM and so on and so forth.

 

Google articles on upgrading, converting, tweaking etc etc etc... but DO IT!!!! It's REALLY REALLY important that you do your homework here.

 

OK, I'll get off my soapbox now....

 

Jorgen

[benibaz]

Not sure if this is different from the one you're looking at, but the Simkits website (http://www.simkits.com/product/trc472-m-flight-deck/) says:

 

"Flight Simulator Software

The TRC472 is controlled via Microsoft Flight Simulator X and Lockheed Martin Prepar3d."

 

Hello lesh,yes you are correct,I have just rechecked and obviously getting cofused with another FFS which must have P3Dv4 and not FSX.benibaz.

[benibaz]

The FFS you intend to buy is FSX and P3D-compliant BUT FOR 32-Bit flight simulation ONLY

http://www.simkits.com/support/

 

So the question is fundamentally incorrect. Your FSX aircraft need only be compliant with P3Dv3 and below.

 

You'd need to look at historic information to check for compliance with such an old version of the sim. Meanwhile the advice stands - FSX is designed to work with the FFS (it says) and introducing potential issues with expensive software by cross-fertilisation is fraught with possible errors...

 

You should ensure you are fully conversant with the hardware and software before stumping out that amount of cash!

 

Hello mallcott,I will be replacing my computer shortly which will be totally compatable with the FFS in question,which will be supplied by the manufacturer of the FFS to avoid any errors between the hardware and software.Simkits have a back-up support especially for this reason.The total cost could well exeed the price quoted for the basic FSS,but I have taken that into account.benibaz.

[Rupert]

Hello mallcott,I will be replacing my computer shortly which will be totally compatable with the FFS in question,which will be supplied by the manufacturer of the FFS to avoid any errors between the hardware and software.Simkits have a back-up support especially for this reason.The total cost could well exeed the price quoted for the basic FSS,but I have taken that into account.benibaz.

 

That sounds like an expensive option! Having said that, sometimes paying more and attaining piece of mind is worth every extra penny!! ;)

 

And you now will have one vendor to go to when, not if, you run into issues!

[Chock]

With regard to the original question, some FS add-on files can be simply copied and pasted into their equivalent P3D locations from their FSX ones and will work just fine, others not so much. But the fact that many add-ons do work okay when you do that means it is occasionally handy to keep FSX installed because some older add-ons which wouldn't install into PP3D because their installer are looking for FSX. Of course you can create a dummy FSX folder and that would invariably get FSX installers to work so you could then migrate the resulting files to P3D, but it's worth having FSX installed for that reason even when you've largely made the jump to P3D, and because some very nice add-ons still haven't made it to P3D and won't work in it at all, so many good old FSX favourites can only be enjoyed by keeping FSX installed and using them in that.