CRJ_simpilot Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 I need a better ATC. The one in the sim both FSX and FS2004 sucks. I was approaching 10 center to O'hare and ATC said maintain 7,000' and couldn't even get me to cross the loc very well at all. Luckily, I always program the GPS to the runway right after I'm told which runway to expect in case I need GPS over the loc to guide me in. Are there any good ATC replacements that I can use for the default Lear 45? All I have in the Lear is GPS, no FMC, so I just fly a staright line and not use SID and STARS. But once I get the PMDG 737 NGX I could fly SID and STARS again. OOM errors? Read this. What the squawk? An awesome weather website with oodles of Info. and options. Wile E. Coyote would be impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingnorris Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Only thing better is live ATC. Vox, vatsim, etc. Real people talk to you and you to them. Some require you take a training course to learn the lingo. CLX - SET Gaming Desktop - Intel Core i9 10850K - 32GB DDR4 3000GHz Memory - GeForce RTX 3060 Ti - 960GB SSD + 4TB HDD - Windows 11 Home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il88pp Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Cartmanna-san, you lack dicipline.... If ATC doesn't clear you to descend, you don't descend. Simple. And if ATC takes it good time, you slow down, to give them room. If you don't want to follow their instructions anyway then different ATC won't do you any good. Better just switch it off. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontLaugh0122 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 well, of course vatsim, ivao can do a great job in atc. following straight rules and regulations. But in case you dont want to fly online, i use VoxAtc. it's voice recognized. pretty good in vectoring as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRJ_simpilot Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 Thanks. I'll have a look at VoxATC. Question. Can it be used with my AI traffic I already have installed? OOM errors? Read this. What the squawk? An awesome weather website with oodles of Info. and options. Wile E. Coyote would be impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Schwartz Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I'm surprised no one has mentioned ProATC-X, ProFlight 3 and Radar Contact. Any of these would be a huge improvement over the default ATC. As far as I know there will be no further development/upgrades to Radar Contact...something to keep in mind. I've used all three and my preference is ProATC-X. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRJ_simpilot Posted March 16, 2017 Author Share Posted March 16, 2017 ProATC-X looks promising. I just tried VoxATC and didn't care for it. Two flaws I found with it was that it wanted me to take off from a runway that was extremely short and meant more for a Cessna 172 if that and dispite pressing 0, I could not change the runway to take off in. Also, there is no tower at KFNL so it should have been just me making the runway decision based on the wind which would have been runway 15. Second, it seems the noise from the cockpit was too loud or something and I tried and tried to contact Denver APP on upwind and couldn't. Keep saying please repeat. It was at that point I killed the flight and promptly uninstalled in disgust. Nice idea, but needs refining. OOM errors? Read this. What the squawk? An awesome weather website with oodles of Info. and options. Wile E. Coyote would be impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Schwartz Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 VoxATC is one I've never tried. You should be aware that ProATC-X is very procedure based. What I mean by that is that it will use SIDs, STARs and IAPs whenever possible. That's what I prefer, so it's ideal for me. ProATC-X uses AIRAC data from Navigraph, which I have a subscription to (one of the best flight sim add-ons, IMO). ProATC-X not only pulls the way point information from the AIRAC, but also any altitude and speed restrictions that may be associated with way points. The fact that is uses the altitude data means that you pretty much never get vectored into a mountain. It also lets you create your own checklists for whatever planes you fly. Departure and Arrival procedures are automatically chosen by ProATC-X when you first get clearance and are based on current weather conditions (I use ASnext). If the wx changes significantly by the time you get to your arrival airport, ProATC-X will change the arrival procedure if necessary. You can also manually request different procedures/runways on take off and arrival. Overall it's pretty slick. You can even make your own checklists for whatever aircraft you fly. PF3 is also quite good, but if you want to integrate SIDs/STARs/IAPs into your flight plan you have to set that all up manually prior to starting the flight, and you can't change them once the flight has begun. You also have to manually set altitude restrictions for each airport for terrain avoidance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRJ_simpilot Posted March 17, 2017 Author Share Posted March 17, 2017 Thanks. That sounds really nice to have. Can I fly just a direct route like the GPS because right now I'm just flying the default Lear 45. I don't have an FMC, or does that matter? OOM errors? Read this. What the squawk? An awesome weather website with oodles of Info. and options. Wile E. Coyote would be impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Schwartz Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 An FMC is not necessary. If you like, ProATC-X will generate a flight plan that includes SID/STAR/IAP waypoints. Load that into the FSX Flight Planner/GPS and you're good to go. If the flight plan should be modified (i.e. change of STAR or IAP), ProATC-X will update the flight plan. I fly some planes without FMCs and it works nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgon Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 I've looked at ProATC-X as the successor to my current ATC add-on when I finally put the legendary Radar Contact to rest...one day. [emoji5] Best, Phil Best, Phil https://www.facebook.com/groups/UKdirect/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Boy the Pilot Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Try EditVoicePack: https://flyawaysimulation.com/downloads/files/18920/fsx-editvoicepack-x-40/ It added a TON of different callsigns and new aircraft models, and it updated the phraseology, which you can switch from FAA phraseology to ICAO phraseology and you can increase the speed of how fast you and AI transmit messages. Just a suggestion. Works for me and is great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRJ_simpilot Posted March 18, 2017 Author Share Posted March 18, 2017 Editvoiepack is not an ATC replacement. It is a phraseology replacement. I've been using it since day one. OOM errors? Read this. What the squawk? An awesome weather website with oodles of Info. and options. Wile E. Coyote would be impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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