rgmpc Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 I have a system that I use exclusively for flight sim games, but which produces very slow frame rates. I was told when I purchased the system that I should get very good frame rates (expecting at least 40 fps). I only get over 20 if everything on the game is turned way down. Here are my system details: AMD fx 8320 eight core 3.5 ghz 16 GB dual chnl ddr3 Asus Tech motherboard M5A97 R2 2 identical AMD Radion r9 280A graphics cards - crossfire available but enabling makes no difference Storage 256 Samsung SSD 850 pro Don't know if this is enough information to give me an idea if 15 -20 frame rate is expected or, as I believe, is low or is this all my system can generate. Any help would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il88pp Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Hard to judge, but i think it's to be expected. Amd 3.5 is not intel 3.5 it's more like intel 2.6 And a second videocard in crossfire or similar does nothing for fsx. Especially not for framerate, as that depends only on cpu. All a second (separate) card does is make it possible to add more then 3 monitors. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W2DR Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 As above, the CPU is simply too slow to get anywhere near 40 FPS. Nothing can be done in that situation. FSX performance is all about CPU cycles (the more the better) and that's purely a function of raw CPU speed.....Doug Intel 10700K @ 5.0 Ghz, Asus Maxumus XII Hero MB, Noctua NH-U12A Cooler, Corsair Vengence Pro 32GB 3200Mhz, Geforce RTX 2060 Super GPU, Cooler Master HAF 932 Tower, Thermaltake 1000W Toughpower PSU, Windows 10 Professional 64-Bit, and other good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorgen.s.andersen Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 A question is also if the eye can perceive more than about 25-30 FPS. There is a reason why TV and movies don't have faster frame rates than that. Having said that, there are 2 buzzwords that one needs to keep in mind when it comes to a dedicated FSX system. Those are "Intel" and "nVidia". Forget everything else. On the present AMD/AMD system, try reading and implementing Kosta's tweaking guide, located elsewhere in this forum. Jorgen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 A question is also if the eye can perceive more than about 25-30 FPS. There is a reason why TV and movies don't have faster frame rates than that. Having said that, there are 2 buzzwords that one needs to keep in mind when it comes to a dedicated FSX system. Those are "Intel" and "nVidia". Forget everything else. On the present AMD/AMD system, try reading and implementing Kosta's tweaking guide, located elsewhere in this forum. Jorgen Well said Jorgen!;) Being an old chopper guy I usually fly low and slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 A question is also if the eye can perceive more than about 25-30 FPS. There is a reason why TV and movies don't have faster frame rates than that. The human eye can easily see more than 30 FPS, which is really about the minimum for smooth motion. Also, the way TVs and movies display images is different than how PCs do. Higher frame rates on PCs are noticeably smoother. A bigger limitation is that many LCD monitors can only display 60 FPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J08J06 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 You should definitely be getting more than 20 fps. My system has the FX-8320e which is lower than your cpu at 3.2 ghz, and an rx-480. It runs smooth with no stuttering, and that's with it at 1080p and everything turned up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 The human eye can easily see more than 30 FPS, which is really about the minimum for smooth motion. Also, the way TVs and movies display images is different than how PCs do. Higher frame rates on PCs are noticeably smoother. A bigger limitation is that many LCD monitors can only display 60 FPS. So you're getting over 60fps with FSX and are limited by the monitor? If I leave my speed unchecked I can often get into the 40's, depending on scenery density. However I've never felt it was worth all the compromises. I normally keep my machine locked at 30fps when running FSX and have never felt going faster really mad an improvement in my experience. Michael Being an old chopper guy I usually fly low and slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorgen.s.andersen Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 A question for the OP: have you taken a look at Kosta's tweaking guide, posted as a sticky in this forum? Jorgen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 So you're getting over 60fps with FSX and are limited by the monitor? Not consistently in FSX, no, however, in other games I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Not consistently in FSX, no, however, in other games I do. I have to agree!!! I have spent big bucks proving that no one can get anywhere near these numbers consistently in FSX! Even if you're using the default planes and scenery, I'd have to question whether you ever, EVER even reach anything approaching 60fps using FSX!!???? I'm running a i7 6770K with DDR4 2400 ram and even with only using the default scenery and aircraft can I ever even hope to achieve 45fps in FSX much less 60+!!! I feel it's more than time where we acknowledge that FSX or P3D has nothing to do with all the recent outside world programs! If you enjoy FSX or P3D which I also use, get over those issues!!!! If not not, go out and find an alternative. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!!! Being an old chopper guy I usually fly low and slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 I have to agree!!! I have spent big bucks proving that no one can get anywhere near these numbers consistently in FSX! Even if you're using the default planes and scenery, I'd have to question whether you ever, EVER even reach anything approaching 60fps using FSX!!???? Looks like I spoke too soon. I'm in the process of setting up a new system, and just took FSX Steam Edition for a spin with no add-ons of any type installed. With most of the graphics settings turned up, I was cruising around at 70+ FPS. Took the Extra 300 for a flight out of CYBW and over the city (before trying unsuccessfully to fly between some twin towers. :pilot:). Cranked the terrain mesh and resolution settings, cloud draw distance and enabled a couple of other settings, and the frame rates dropped to the 40-50 range. I know others have had similar results before, however, add-ons such as Orbx do tend to hit the frame rates pretty hard. Much of it does come down to what and where you are flying and what the sim's settings are too. Specs: i7 7700 GeForce GTX 970 x2 with SLI enabled, driving a 2560x1440 resolution monitor 32GB DDR 2133 RAM Windows 10 Pro 64 bit PS, forgot I had Hyper-V with one VM running in the background too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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