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Many people here reported issues with fsx in win10.

Many went back to their old OS. (If they still could!)

Search some threads here on Win10 from the last year. use the search box. (top of page)

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FSX works just fine with Windows 10. End of story.

 

BUT - do your homework! Look around in the threads to see other people's experiences.

 

Above all, do not - repeat: DO NOT - install FSX where Microsoft wants it to go, that is in the C:\Program Files(x86) location. Create a folder like C:\FSX and install to that.

 

Jorgen

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I have P3D installed in it's default file location, as well as 3x versions of FS9. I also installed a version straight into C:\. I also turned the UAC setting right down.

 

Never a problem or issue, in Windows 10, 8.1 or 7.

 

I wonder how many people are saying do not - repeat: DO NOT - install FSX where Microsoft wants it to go, withot even trying.

 

Oh, I've done this on about 30 PC's at our VA as well. No issues at all.

BUT, that's just my, & 30-40 others experience.

Robin

Cape Town, South Africa

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I wonder how many people are saying do not - repeat: DO NOT - install FSX where Microsoft wants it to go, withot even trying.

 

It's not just UAC. Microsoft's restrictive file permissions for C:\Programs and C:\Programs (x86) cause all sorts of problems when adding third-party items and modifying aircraft, scenery. Years of posts about "I can't do this ... or that" prove that installing in the default locations is asking for trouble, especially for those who are not very computer savvy.

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Ok, have you personally had any issues? If UAC is turned down, you might, not for sure, have to run in admin mode. Maybe. I've never had any issues on 2x laptops, 3x operating systems. But, as I said before, that's my 2x systems. I would actually like to replicate any issues just to see for myself.

Robin

Cape Town, South Africa

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Hi, Marcel,

 

As others have posted check out the forum for info on W10 and FSX use.

 

WRT third party addons - a problem that I have come across is related to any CD/DVD based product that came out prior to late 2011/early 2012. If the product uses a disk anti-piracy app that requires the use of SECDRV, W10 will not allow the disk to run the installation process. MS decided to exclude SECDRV from W10 and also issued patches that disabled it in Vista/W7 and W8. They did it to remove a known security risk associated with SECDRV - in what I consider to be a very late response as the risk has been known about since at least 2006.

 

As SECDRV has been completely removed from W10, there is currently no workaround that I know of to allow such disks to work. Vista/W7/W8 OSs have a number of ways around to the problem because SECDRV is disabled but not removed.

 

I suspect that the number of such products affected will be fairly low. Indeed, of the CD/DVD based products that I own (15 or so) only one has the issue - the Just Flight Airbus Collection Long Haul. Of course, digital downloads of affected products are unaffected and if the product works on Vista/W7/W8 it is likely to work fine on W10 as, whilst the OS is apparently 'developed and configured' differently from earlier versions, the core 'files' (such as runtime libraries, C++ and so son) that FSX and developed addons require to function are the same.

Regards

 

Brian

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I have Win 10 and FSX installed in its default location (I didn't see the posts before I installed it) and it works find for me.

 

And how many payware and freeware add-ons have you installed? Opened .cfg files for modifications? Been able to save them after editing? Maybe running with an ADMIN-level user account all the time?

 

Not to mention, turning off UAC is a dumb thing to do unless you've dedicated your computer for simulation and are NOT using it as a general purpose pc. No UAC is the digital equivalent of walking downtown with your wallet sticking halfway out of your back pocket. You're asking for trouble since you've turned off an important protection against hijackers, malware, and worse: viruses. That's why UAC is there, guys, to prevent the bad stuff from making changes when it wants to do so.

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I have installed FSX, FSX:SE, P3D2, P3D3, XP9 and XP10 (obviously I don't have all 6 sims installed at the same time...) since switching to Windows 10 and they all work without a problem (with the exception of the typical FSX uiautomationcore.dll issues and whatnot) as long as the ESP-based sims (FSX and P3D) are installed in the drive's root directory (e.g. C:\Prepar3d v2).

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For dave I have 4 pay sets, fly the heavies, American, B757, LevelD B767. I have 100's of freeware planes and a few freeware airports. All seem to work fine. Now what is UAC? I do use Mcafee A'v suite for the virus/malware protection and firewall too.
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Basically, UAC is a tool included by MS in its recent OS's to control what changes are made to system files etc - see this link for a full description -http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/what-is-user-account-control#1TC=windows-7 - note the link goes to the Win 7 info page but UAC acts the same across all Win OSs that have it.

 

As to whether you choose to use or disable it is entirely your decision. Me, over the years I have used XP/Vista/W7/W8 and now 10 and have always disabled UAC. I can honestly say that I have never experienced any problems whatsoever, be it from viruses or malware or a rouge program making changes. Of course I have always used a 3rd party AV/Firewall/Anti-malware suites (currently Norton Internet Security/Malwarebytes Pro) and have kept the rig updated with the various product security updates and so on.

 

I also know people who solely rely on UAC, the Windows Firewall and MS Defender (MS's inbuilt version of a AV tool) for protection and have also had no problems. On the flip side, I also know people who have been hit by problems using both methods.

 

Unfortunately, hackers and the like continually look at ways to exploit security loopholes so there is always a chance that you may get hit, no matter how good your AV/Malware suite is.

 

As stated, its entirely your decision as to what security tools you use - I am happy with having UAC disabled whilst others will think I'm bonkers to do so.

Regards

 

Brian

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And how many payware and freeware add-ons have you installed? Opened .cfg files for modifications? Been able to save them after editing? Maybe running with an ADMIN-level user account all the time?

 

Never a problem with editing anything.

 

I have probably the whole A2A library in my P3D as well as a huge amount of others, as well as a very large amount of payware & freeware in my FS9's. All the UAC does is nag. I have my anti-malware & anti virus to look after me.

Only I can make changes within my system.

Robin

Cape Town, South Africa

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