larsras Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Hi I guess it requires more resources to run FSX if Orbx Global is installed. I currently have a i5 with HD5770 1GB (but looking for new card). Will this work or is it useless? Card requirements then? br Lars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lnuss Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 There won't be a large difference in performance with Global installed, except maybe in dense scenery areas (big cities, for example), and taking autogen down one notch will fix that. Or you might not notice any performance difference -- I didn't. Larry N. As Skylab would say: Remember: Aviation is NOT an exact Science! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 There won't be a large difference in performance with Global installed, except maybe in dense scenery areas (big cities, for example), and taking autogen down one notch will fix that. Or you might not notice any performance difference -- I didn't. I agree with Larry. Global isn't nearly as demanding on your computer as a lot of other scenery is. However I will respond to your other question. FSX lives and dies by the speed of your CPU, & I see you have a i5. Depending on the clock speed of your i5 you should be quite happy with it until you really load it up and/or push the autogen slider too far to the right. However, if you're not happy with your performance with FSX, a faster i5 or faster i7 is IMHO, the best solution. I'm not familiar with that specific model of video card but see it has 1gig of graphic ram. That should be a fine card for FSX. Unless you need a better video card for some other application or game, I'd advise you to not bother buying another video card at all. IMHO for your FSX use, your money would be much better spent buying the fastest clock speed Intel CPU you can afford.;) Being an old chopper guy I usually fly low and slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larsras Posted March 26, 2016 Author Share Posted March 26, 2016 Thanks for both very swift replies. I'm quite surprised that FSX lives on CPU and not GPU :-) Mine is i5 760 2.8 GHz, some years old i guess. Close to spending my money on Orbx Global.... br Lars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Thanks for both very swift replies. I'm quite surprised that FSX lives on CPU and not GPU :-) Mine is i5 760 2.8 GHz, some years old i guess. Close to spending my money on Orbx Global.... br Lars Yes, that's why so many people who buy a "gaming" computer are disappointed in how it works with FSX. Almost every new game out there is GPU needy. FSX is not. A 2.8GHZ chip is what some other people are still using as well. But the Gold Standard for FSX is an Intel chip around 4GHZ or as close to that speed as people can afford. As I mentioned the autogen slider really loads the computer up. Also be very selective with other aircraft traffic, highway traffic, & boat, ship traffic as well as weather and detailed clouds. All those things add to the computer load too. Being an old chopper guy I usually fly low and slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallcott Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 FTX Global uses a number of sleight of hand tricks to optimise autogen. As it is mostly (but not exclusively) replacement textures there should be no performance hit. In fact most report a gain for a given level of autogen setting. The Orbx folder created within your FSX folder will vary in size depending on what else you install. My FTX Global folder is 162 meg - mostly the freeware airports that are added by FTX. The main textures remain in the FSX file structure as replacements for what was installed previously. You can also `offshore` the ORBX folder using a make link command if you want it on a separate drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lnuss Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 I'm quite surprised that FSX lives on CPU and not GPU :-) Lockheed-Martin's Prepar3d makes heavy use of the GPU, as well as the CPU, so a GTX960 or better would be helpful for it, but FSX came out in the days of DX9, which does little with the GPU, vs. the DX11 in P3D which provides for heavy GPU usage. Thus a better graphics card won't help much in FSX or before. So Rupert has it exactly right, that a better CPU will help, but be careful with the sliders. Larry N. As Skylab would say: Remember: Aviation is NOT an exact Science! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W2DR Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 You will see no drop in performance using FTX Global. All Global does is replace the default ground textures. In fact, I see a slight FPS improvement with Global (strange but true). Doug Intel 10700K @ 5.0 Ghz, Asus Maxumus XII Hero MB, Noctua NH-U12A Cooler, Corsair Vengence Pro 32GB 3200Mhz, Geforce RTX 2060 Super GPU, Cooler Master HAF 932 Tower, Thermaltake 1000W Toughpower PSU, Windows 10 Professional 64-Bit, and other good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larsras Posted March 28, 2016 Author Share Posted March 28, 2016 Thanks for your inputs so far. Bought the package yesterday. I have read through the Orbx setup guide but somehow i don't see any improvements in textures at all. The loading time takes quite much longer time now, so something must have changed :-) As i only have 4GB ram, i think that can limit the functionality. I will by more ram, as i have figured out that i can't actually upgrade the CPU on this motherboard to something that is much better. So is low on ram my problem now? br Lars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallcott Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 The difference in textures is so obvious, it sounds like you have done something wrong, or failed to do something. Detail the steps. We will analyse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larsras Posted March 28, 2016 Author Share Posted March 28, 2016 Really helpfull people here at flightsim.com :-) - Installed the downloaded product abt. 4.5 GB - Launched FTX Central2 (one of the PDF's actually using an older version of FTX Central, somewhat confusing). - Selected FTX Global, and APPLY GROUP. It then says "active". - Closed FTX Central. In FSX: - Done the setup (and checked a number of times now) as shown in the FTX Global PDF from p15-p18. - Also checked the scenery library, that the Orbx products are list at the top, and the last one is Global. As this is not working i tried to add some more, like the Europe and NA freeware packs, and enabled Orbx trees and vector road lights. So something missing here? br Lars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallcott Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Yes, FTX library files FTX Central V2 should have promp you to install these. Always install last, after all addons, as the library files are updated fairly consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsimmer98 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 I don't own the product, but I've seen a comparison video, and the difference looked subtle to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larsras Posted March 28, 2016 Author Share Posted March 28, 2016 Should be ok. What i have is: GLOBAL FTX Global Base Pack FTX GLOBAL BASE PACK - Version 1.40 September 2015 OTHER Europe Freeware Packs FTX GLOBAL FREEWARE AIRPORTS EUROPE PACKS 1 to 8 - March 2015 North America Freeware Packs FTX Global Freeware Airports North & South America - March 2016 Orbx Libraries FTX AA ORBX Libraries Version 160321 21st March 2016 UNCATEGORISED FTX_OLC_EU1 FTX openLC Europe Region 1 (Baltics Demo) Version 1.10 - September 2013 FTX_OLC_NA1 FTX openLC North America Region 1 Version 1.00 - September 2013 FTX_OLC_AA FTX openLC Base Region Version 1.10 - September 2013 FTXAA_ORBXLIBS is #1 priority ORBX!OPENLC_BASE is the last (#5) of the FTX/ORBX products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 I don't own the product, but I've seen a comparison video, and the difference looked subtle to me. I just watched that video. Yes they look very similar there. Don't know why, maybe autogen is set real low? I can surely see a lot more improvements here than appear there! In fact as more than one post over the years has pointed out, you even gain airports. That's a lot more than subtle to me.;) Being an old chopper guy I usually fly low and slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lnuss Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 I just watched that video. Yes they look very similar there. Don't know why, maybe autogen is set real low? I can surely see a lot more improvements here than appear there! In fact as more than one post over the years has pointed out, you even gain airports. That's a lot more than subtle to me.;) I agree on the difference in appearance -- there's a lot. And as for airports, not only do they add some airports, but the freeware airport package makes those that it includes on a par with those updated in the ORBX region scenery, that is, much more accurate layout, aircraft and vehicles and trees, improved hangars and buildings and much more, even animated people, at those airports. They actually feel inhabited, instead of abandoned. Larry N. As Skylab would say: Remember: Aviation is NOT an exact Science! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 I agree on the difference in appearance -- there's a lot. And as for airports, not only do they add some airports, but the freeware airport package makes those that it includes on a par with those updated in the ORBX region scenery, that is, much more accurate layout, aircraft and vehicles and trees, improved hangars and buildings and much more, even animated people, at those airports. They actually feel inhabited, instead of abandoned. Well put Larry! I flew into 1D2 today. It is not only an airport which was not there on the default software. There are people walking around and planes moving there as well! In fact it was hugely inhabited! I almost taxied into a man out strolling. He was walking across my parking spot as I taxied up, with his back to me!! There's not a lot of Homeland Security at 1D2!! :rolleyes: Being an old chopper guy I usually fly low and slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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