StringBean Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Would someone who has an updated Orbx PNW install (Patch 008) please look in ...FSX\ORBX\FTX_NA\FTX_NA_PNW05_SCENERY\scenery for ADE_FTX_PNW_KRNT_Renton.bgl and post back the dates and file size that you have? Many thanks in advance. peace, the Bean WWOD---What Would Opa Do? Farewell, my freind (sp) Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lnuss Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Mine is 21.2 KB, modified 2/12/14 21:05, created 2/25/14 23:50. Larry N. As Skylab would say: Remember: Aviation is NOT an exact Science! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringBean Posted February 21, 2016 Author Share Posted February 21, 2016 Thanks Larry. I always wondered how you could modify a file on the 12th when the file is not created until the 25th. One of life's mysteries. peace, the Bean WWOD---What Would Opa Do? Farewell, my freind (sp) Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lnuss Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 I think that in Windows, as opposed to some other systems, the mod time is when the file was last changed (obviously after it was created on some other system), even if that was on another machine, thus the date is a carryover from another computer system. The creation date, I think, is when it was put on the current system, even though it was a copy of something modified some time back. Thus my take on the discrepancy, how it appears to me. It's weird... Larry N. As Skylab would say: Remember: Aviation is NOT an exact Science! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napamule2 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Files, after all, are WINDOWS files and not Flight Sim files. So the 'properties' will be set by Winodws and in this case, Windows set the date and time. Quote: 'To open Date and Time, click Start, point to Settings, click Control Panel, and then double-click Date and Time. *** Windows uses the date setting to identify when files are created or modified.' *** So if you created a file today (Windows date and time) changed the time & date and modified it yesterday (Windows date and time) that is how it can happen. Sort of back to the future. Chuck B Napamule i7 2600K @ 3.4 Ghz (Turbo-Boost to 3.877 Ghz), Asus P8H67 Pro, Super Talent 8 Gb DDR3/1333 Dual Channel, XFX Radeon R7-360B 2Gb DDR5, Corsair 650 W PSU, Dell 23 in (2048x1152), Windows7 Pro 64 bit, MS Sidewinder Precision 2 Joy, Logitech K-360 wireless KB & Mouse, Targus PAUK10U USB Keypad for Throttle (F1 to F4)/Spoiler/Tailhook/Wing Fold/Pitch Trim/Parking Brake/Snap to 2D Panel/View Change. Installed on 250 Gb (D:). FS9 and FSX Acceleration (locked at 30 FPS). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringBean Posted February 21, 2016 Author Share Posted February 21, 2016 Files, after all, are WINDOWS files and not Flight Sim files. So the 'properties' will be set by Winodws and in this case, Windows set the date and time. Quote: 'To open Date and Time, click Start, point to Settings, click Control Panel, and then double-click Date and Time. *** Windows uses the date setting to identify when files are created or modified.' *** So if you created a file today (Windows date and time) changed the time & date and modified it yesterday (Windows date and time) that is how it can happen. Sort of back to the future. Chuck B Napamule Oh Chuck, not even close. To begin with, this is an NTFS issue, not a Windows one. Larry is far closer to the truth than the idea that people are constantly changing the time on their computer to control the file dates on their computer. For starters, read this- https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/299648 WWOD---What Would Opa Do? Farewell, my freind (sp) Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lnuss Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Chuck, The file dates I quoted above were for an ORBX file, installed by the ORBX installer, and not touched by me or anyone else on my system. The creation date on that file was the date I installed it (therefore date the the file itself was created, though it is a copy of the original that ORBX has). The modified date on that file is the date that ORBX last made a change to the original file, not something I did. And the "other systems" I mentioned above referred to Unix and Amiga file mechanisms, not to FSX/P3D, which use the operating system and file system (Windows, of course, with the NTFS file system) to manipulate files. I do know something about computers and different operating systems. Larry N. As Skylab would say: Remember: Aviation is NOT an exact Science! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il88pp Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 I recently restored a System Image of C:\ After that, all "date created" were the currrent time and date. But all "date modified" varied. Looking in the fsx folder for example, I see many files were "modified" in 2006 (I built the pc late 2013), while all date created were now 16-06-2016. I gave up on keeping track of things using dates after that. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napamule2 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 My thinking was that the ORBx coders were using different computers (laptops? telecomute? with incorrect time/date) and then copied over to another computer (with the correct time/date). NTFS? That is the same as FAT32 as far as time/date is concerned (ie: it's Windows XP/7/8/10 that controls the file name/date). The only thing FAT32 can't handle is long file names. But NTFS and FAT32 (like USB Sticks) can work together with no problems. Chuck B i7 2600K @ 3.4 Ghz (Turbo-Boost to 3.877 Ghz), Asus P8H67 Pro, Super Talent 8 Gb DDR3/1333 Dual Channel, XFX Radeon R7-360B 2Gb DDR5, Corsair 650 W PSU, Dell 23 in (2048x1152), Windows7 Pro 64 bit, MS Sidewinder Precision 2 Joy, Logitech K-360 wireless KB & Mouse, Targus PAUK10U USB Keypad for Throttle (F1 to F4)/Spoiler/Tailhook/Wing Fold/Pitch Trim/Parking Brake/Snap to 2D Panel/View Change. Installed on 250 Gb (D:). FS9 and FSX Acceleration (locked at 30 FPS). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadcatcher Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 My thinking was that the ORBx coders were using different computers (laptops? telecomute? with incorrect time/date) and then copied over to another computer (with the correct time/date). NTFS? That is the same as FAT32 as far as time/date is concerned (ie: it's Windows XP/7/8/10 that controls the file name/date). The only thing FAT32 can't handle is long file names. But NTFS and FAT32 (like USB Sticks) can work together with no problems. Chuck B There are many more differences than just long file names between the two - ADS or alternate data streams for instance... But correct as far as the dates... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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