welkerwin Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 EDIT: No answer found, thread closed. Quick question: How do I make smoke blow back from the tail of the plane instead of clouding up right at the tail while I'm not moving? I have FXEditor as an editing program. Code for the smoke here: [Library Effect] Lifetime=5 Version=2.00 Radius=-1 Priority=0 [Properties] [Emitter.0] Lifetime=0.00, 0.00 Delay=0.30, 0.32 Bounce=0.00 Rate=1.00, 1.01 X Emitter Velocity=0.00, 0.00 Y Emitter Velocity=0.00, 0.00 Z Emitter Velocity=0.00, 0.00 Drag=0.00, 0.01 X Particle Velocity=0.00, 0.00 Y Particle Velocity=0.00, 0.00 Z Particle Velocity=0.00, 0.00 X Rotation=0.00, 0.00 Y Rotation=0.00, 0.00 Z Rotation=0.00, 0.00 X Offset=0.00, 0.00 Y Offset=0.00, 0.00 Z Offset=0.00, 0.00 Pitch=0.00, 0.00 Bank=0.00, 0.00 Heading=0.00, 0.00 [Particle.0] Lifetime=30.50, 30.50 Type=21 X Scale=4.00, 4.00 Y Scale=4.00, 4.00 Z Scale=0.00, 0.00 X Scale Rate=1.00, 1.00 Y Scale Rate=1.00, 1.00 Z Scale Rate=0.00, 0.00 Drag=-999.00, -999.00 Color Rate=0.00, 0.00 X Offset=0.00, 0.00 Y Offset=0.00, 0.00 Z Offset=0.00, 0.00 Fade In=0.20, 0.20 Fade Out=0.90, 0.90 Shade=1 Face=0, 0, 0 [ParticleAttributes.0] Blend Mode=1 Texture=fx_smoke.bmp Bounce=0.00 Color Start=62, 160, 240, 150 Color End=62, 160, 240, 255 Jitter Distance=1.00 Jitter Time=5.00 TempK=107.00 TempRate=0.00 uv1=0.00, 0.00 uv2=1.00, 1.00 X Scale Goal=20.00 Y Scale Goal=20.00 Z Scale Goal=0.00 Extrude Length=20.00 Extrude Pitch Max=15.00 Extrude Heading Max=15.00 [Emitter.1] Lifetime=0.00, 0.00 Delay=0.00, 0.00 Bounce=0.00 Rate=50.00, 70.00 X Emitter Velocity=0.00, 0.00 Y Emitter Velocity=0.00, 0.00 Z Emitter Velocity=0.00, 0.00 Drag=0.00, 0.00 X Particle Velocity=0.00, 0.00 Y Particle Velocity=0.00, 0.00 Z Particle Velocity=0.00, 0.00 X Rotation=0.00, 0.00 Y Rotation=0.00, 0.00 Z Rotation=0.00, 0.00 X Offset=0.00, 0.00 Y Offset=0.00, 0.00 Z Offset=0.00, 0.00 Pitch=0.00, 0.00 Bank=0.00, 0.00 Heading=0.00, 0.00 [Particle.1] Lifetime=2.00, 8.50 Type=19 X Scale=0.50, 0.75 Y Scale=0.50, 0.75 Z Scale=0.00, 0.00 X Scale Rate=5.00, 10.00 Y Scale Rate=5.00, 10.00 Z Scale Rate=0.00, 0.00 Drag=-999.00, -999.00 Color Rate=0.33, 0.45 X Offset=0.00, 0.00 Y Offset=-1.50, -0.50 Z Offset=-1.00, 1.00 Fade In=0.05, 0.05 Fade Out=0.55, 0.57 Rotation=-60.00, 60.00 Shade=1 Face=1, 1, 1 [ParticleAttributes.1] Blend Mode=1 Texture=fx_1.bmp Bounce=0.00 Color Start=62, 160, 240, 150 Color End=62, 160, 240, 0 Jitter Distance=0.05 Jitter Time=1.00 TempK=107.00 TempRate=0.00 uv1=0.00, 0.50 uv2=0.50, 1.00 X Scale Goal=3.00 Y Scale Goal=3.00 Z Scale Goal=0.00 Extrude Length=0.00 Extrude Pitch Max=0.00 Extrude Heading Max=0.00 [Emitter.2] Lifetime=0.00, 0.00 Delay=0.00, 0.00 Bounce=0.00 Rate=40.00, 60.00 X Emitter Velocity=0.00, 0.00 Y Emitter Velocity=0.00, 0.00 Z Emitter Velocity=0.00, 0.00 Drag=0.00, 0.00 X Particle Velocity=0.00, 0.00 Y Particle Velocity=0.00, 0.00 Z Particle Velocity=0.00, 0.00 X Rotation=0.00, 0.00 Y Rotation=0.00, 0.00 Z Rotation=0.00, 0.00 X Offset=0.00, 0.00 Y Offset=0.00, 0.00 Z Offset=0.00, 0.00 Pitch=0.00, 0.00 Bank=0.00, 0.00 Heading=0.00, 0.00 [Particle.2] Lifetime=2.00, 8.50 Type=19 X Scale=0.50, 0.75 Y Scale=0.50, 0.75 Z Scale=0.00, 0.00 X Scale Rate=5.00, 10.00 Y Scale Rate=5.00, 10.00 Z Scale Rate=0.00, 0.00 Drag=-999.00, -999.00 Color Rate=0.33, 0.45 X Offset=0.00, 0.00 Y Offset=0.00, 0.00 Z Offset=-1.00, 1.00 Fade In=0.05, 0.05 Fade Out=0.55, 0.57 Rotation=-60.00, 60.00 Shade=1 Face=1, 1, 1 [ParticleAttributes.2] Blend Mode=1 Texture=fx_1.bmp Bounce=0.00 Color Start=62, 160, 240, 75 Color End=62, 160, 240, 0 Jitter Distance=0.05 Jitter Time=1.00 TempK=107.00 TempRate=0.00 uv1=0.00, 0.50 uv2=0.50, 1.00 X Scale Goal=3.00 Y Scale Goal=3.00 Z Scale Goal=0.00 Extrude Length=0.00 Extrude Pitch Max=0.00 Extrude Heading Max=0.00 [Emitter.3] Lifetime=0.00, 0.00 Delay=0.00, 0.00 Bounce=0.00 Rate=40.00, 60.00 X Emitter Velocity=0.00, 0.00 Y Emitter Velocity=0.00, 0.00 Z Emitter Velocity=0.00, 0.00 Drag=0.00, 0.00 X Particle Velocity=0.00, 0.00 Y Particle Velocity=0.00, 0.00 Z Particle Velocity=0.00, 0.00 X Rotation=0.00, 0.00 Y Rotation=0.00, 0.00 Z Rotation=0.00, 0.00 X Offset=0.00, 0.00 Y Offset=0.00, 0.00 Z Offset=0.00, 0.00 Pitch=0.00, 0.00 Bank=0.00, 0.00 Heading=0.00, 0.00 [Particle.3] Lifetime=2.00, 8.50 Type=19 X Scale=0.50, 0.75 Y Scale=0.50, 0.75 Z Scale=0.00, 0.00 X Scale Rate=5.00, 10.00 Y Scale Rate=5.00, 10.00 Z Scale Rate=0.00, 0.00 Drag=-999.00, -999.00 Color Rate=0.33, 0.45 X Offset=0.00, 0.00 Y Offset=0.00, 0.00 Z Offset=-1.00, 1.00 Fade In=0.05, 0.05 Fade Out=0.55, 0.57 Rotation=-60.00, 60.00 Shade=1 Face=1, 1, 1 [ParticleAttributes.3] Blend Mode=1 Texture=fx_1.bmp Bounce=0.00 Color Start=62, 160, 240, 0 Color End=62, 160, 240, 0 Jitter Distance=0.05 Jitter Time=1.00 TempK=107.00 TempRate=0.00 uv1=0.00, 0.50 uv2=0.50, 1.00 X Scale Goal=3.00 Y Scale Goal=3.00 Z Scale Goal=0.00 Extrude Length=0.00 Extrude Pitch Max=0.00 Extrude Heading Max=0.00 Thanks ahead of time! 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JSkorna Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 It's probably not smoke you are seeing but snow. Go to a Spring/Summer runway and see if that makes a difference. http://www.air-source.us/images/sigs/000219_195_jimskorna.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napamule2 Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 If the smoke 'bunches up' around the tail it is because the smoke starts too close to the exhaust (increase the lon value= further out) and because the wind will blow it into the ac if you stop with the wind at your tail. Turn off all wind and it should be better (but still not perfect). Don't know about 'velocity' for smoke - sorry. Chuck B i7 2600K @ 3.4 Ghz (Turbo-Boost to 3.877 Ghz), Asus P8H67 Pro, Super Talent 8 Gb DDR3/1333 Dual Channel, XFX Radeon R7-360B 2Gb DDR5, Corsair 650 W PSU, Dell 23 in (2048x1152), Windows7 Pro 64 bit, MS Sidewinder Precision 2 Joy, Logitech K-360 wireless KB & Mouse, Targus PAUK10U USB Keypad for Throttle (F1 to F4)/Spoiler/Tailhook/Wing Fold/Pitch Trim/Parking Brake/Snap to 2D Panel/View Change. Installed on 250 Gb (D:). FS9 and FSX Acceleration (locked at 30 FPS). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefpee Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 IIRC correctly its tied in with the Drag & particle velocity values which are zero in the list below. If the smoke hits ground it can stop or slow it down so it just rises. Need to read the FS9 SDK, but be careful in FSX 'cos the X,Y & Z are different directions I think. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScatterbrainKid Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Quick question: How do I make smoke blow back from the tail of the plane instead of clouding up right at the tail while I'm not moving?.. If you mean turning on the smoke with the 'I' key, it's bound to cloud up just like in real life if there's no wind, so either start moving or add some wind in the weather settings..:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welkerwin Posted February 16, 2016 Author Share Posted February 16, 2016 It's probably not smoke you are seeing but snow. Go to a Spring/Summer runway and see if that makes a difference. It's not snow, I did it in the middle of a hot desert day. Volatum Liberum! Feel Free to throw it in Google Translate! http://i58.tinypic.com/33jloww.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welkerwin Posted February 16, 2016 Author Share Posted February 16, 2016 If you mean turning on the smoke with the 'I' key, it's bound to cloud up just like in real life if there's no wind, so either start moving or add some wind in the weather settings..:) I know, but have you noticed when the Blue Angels test their smoke on the ground it blows back from the tail because of the jet exhaust? I want that. If the smoke 'bunches up' around the tail it is because the smoke starts too close to the exhaust (increase the lon value= further out) and because the wind will blow it into the ac if you stop with the wind at your tail. Turn off all wind and it should be better (but still not perfect). Don't know about 'velocity' for smoke - sorry. Chuck B It bunches up because the particle effect has no velocity, not because of the absence of wind or its closeness to the plane. Volatum Liberum! Feel Free to throw it in Google Translate! http://i58.tinypic.com/33jloww.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzippy Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 It's not snow, I did it in the middle of a hot desert day. And the type of aircraft and wind velocity and direction is.........? Still thinking about a new flightsim only computer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welkerwin Posted February 16, 2016 Author Share Posted February 16, 2016 And the type of aircraft and wind velocity and direction is.........? Type of aircraft is the Lotus L-39 and wind was 0. This is airshow smoke, the stuff you get when you press I. Volatum Liberum! Feel Free to throw it in Google Translate! http://i58.tinypic.com/33jloww.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzippy Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 If you are looking for something like this happening while on the ground and not moving, then you better have a stiff breeze coming in from in front of you. Still thinking about a new flightsim only computer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScatterbrainKid Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 ..when the Blue Angels test their smoke on the ground it blows back from the tail because of the jet exhaust? I want that. I can't make it happen in FSX. This first pic is with no wind, but even when I stand on the brakes and open the throttle the smoke still bunches, it must be the way FSX is programmed and there's nothing we can do about it, but I don't really care about no steenkin bunching anyway because I just take off- http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/sub2/fsx-smok1_zpsjyffzap5.jpg~original But in this second pic I've added a headwind and the smoke looks fine even though the plane's not moving..:) http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/sub2/fsx-smok2_zpsnxliz5mu.jpg~original Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welkerwin Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 Never mind you guys. I'd just seen it done with the FSXBA smoke effect on their jet where lying in the particle .fx file some lines of code made it blow back from the jet WITHOUT wind.. I'll mark the discussion as closed. Volatum Liberum! Feel Free to throw it in Google Translate! http://i58.tinypic.com/33jloww.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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