Default Boeing 737-400 Start Problems...

[Minas Man]

:)Hello, again. Seems like lately I've spent a lot of time here trying to keep FS2004 up and running on an old computer and a tight budget.

 

Anyway, here's a new situation: After about 2 years of flying the LearJet 45, I've decided to upgrade to the Boeing 737-400. Should be a simple enough affair, but low and behold: :confused:

 

How do you turn the damn thing on:confused: The knee board says press CTRL/E and hold. Simple, right? Well, after I got that done, and tried to advance the throttles, only the left one would advance. The right throttle wouldn't budge unless I moused over it and dragged. If I tried to throttled down, again only the left throttle would move.

 

God, now what :confused:

[ViperPilot2]

You might want to try this...

 

Press & hold the 'E' key, press 1 & 2 in rapid succession, then release the 'E' key.

 

Then press 'Ctrl + E' to start. Watch the Gauges to see if both engines light up.

 

Hope this helps...

 

Alan :pilot:

[gwillmot]

You might want to try this...

 

Press & hold the 'E' key, press 1, 2, 3, & 4 in rapid succession, then release the 'E' key.

 

Then press 'Ctrl + E' to start. Watch the Gauges to see if all 4 engines light up.

 

Hope this helps...

 

Alan :pilot:

 

Hey now, that's an easy way to turn a 2-engine 737 into a 4-headed monster! Performance should improve dramatically!

[theyorks]

Another option is to press 'E', then Ctrl 'E'.

 

 

Sent from my tablet thingy!

[ViperPilot2]

D'oh! D'OH!

 

Alan

 

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[il88pp]

Control E should start both engines.

From what you say I think both engines are actually started but only one responds to the throttle.

If indeed both engines are started:

That seems like something you set up in the controller software for the throttle.

Do you have a throttle system separate? With 3 levers? A throttle, mixture and rpm lever perhaps?

I think you need to assign the throttle to both engines in it's software.

(or assign the rpm lever to the other engine.)

(or maybe assign it in the default fs9 controls menu, and make sure that sets the throttle to control both engines.)

 

To test before you start trying this, you can try to advance the throttle with the keyboard command. Both engines should respond to that if they are started.

 

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I think you should avoid the "e +1" business.

"e +1"

Is the "select engine 1" command. It means the commands you give after that will only affect engine 1.

So increasing throttle after that will only affect engine 1. Even if you use the keybord to advance thrust.

If you do use it, always press "e" without a number after it. That selects all engines together again.

 

 

On the other hand, that may be exactly what caused this. You may have saved the flight (or the default flight) after you pressed "e + 1" at some point.

So press "e" with no number after it, and it could be your engines will work together again.

[HoratioWondersocks]

Control E should start both engines.

From what you say I think both engines are actually started but only one responds to the throttle.

If indeed both engines are started:

That seems like something you set up in the controller software for the throttle.

Do you have a throttle system separate? With 3 levers? A throttle, mixture and rpm lever perhaps?

I think you need to assign the throttle to both engines in it's software.

(or assign the rpm lever to the other engine.)

(or maybe assign it in the default fs9 controls menu, and make sure that sets the throttle to control both engines.)

 

To test before you start trying this, you can try to advance the throttle with the keyboard command. Both engines should respond to that if they are started.

 

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I think you should avoid the "e +1" business.

"e +1"

Is the "select engine 1" command. It means the commands you give after that will only affect engine 1.

So increasing throttle after that will only affect engine 1. Even if you use the keybord to advance thrust.

If you do use it, always press "e" without a number after it. That selects all engines together again.

 

 

On the other hand, that may be exactly what caused this. You may have saved the flight (or the default flight) after you pressed "e + 1" at some point.

So press "e" with no number after it, and it could be your engines will work together again.

 

Hello

I have experieced this issue myself from time to time (pretty rarely it has to be said) and just to confuse the situation further I HAVE managed to resolve the problem by selecting e1 (234 depending on aircraft)in fairly rapid succession. BUT! as is often the way with FS this doesn't always work :).

What does always work for me is simply re loading which aircraft iam currently experiencing a no throttle situation with ,and of I jolly well go.

 

Anyways

Thoughts Andy

[il88pp]

Andy,

 

lets say, a two engine aircraft.

you do:

e1=select engine 1

all commands after affect only engine 1, including "increasse throttle"

you start engine 1

 

e2=select engine 2

all commands after affect only engine 1, including "increasse throttle"

you start engine 2

 

e3=select engine 3

has no effect, plane has only 2wo engines

still engine 2 is selected.

 

e4=select engine 4

has no effect, plane has only 2wo engines

still engine 2 is selected.

 

Now advance the throttle,

Only engine 2 revs up.

 

If you press e, nothing after, both engines selected.

Because e is the "select all engines" command

 

If you press e5,

both engines are selected.

e5 is not an existing command, FS sees you press "e, and then nothing", "e but not 1,2,3 or4"

so all are selected,

Because e is the "select all engines" command

 

 

You can avoid all this by just selecting "e" from the start.

Then the commands affect both engines,

they both start together,

and the throttle affects both engines equally.

 

 

you said:

BUT! as is often the way with FS this doesn't always work .

If you think FS does one thing on time, and something else the next, you are wrong. FS is not a sentient being. It doesn't "suddenly decide to do something else" on it's own.

"shift h" flicks the pitot heat switch.

You can use it to switch the pitot heat on.

It will always do this.

Unless YOU have left the pitot heat on in the previous flight, and start from that saved flight.

Because then it also flicks the pitot heat switch. But now the pitot heat is of course going to be switched off.

Not because FS decided "this time I won't flick the pitot heat switch"

But because FS is a program, and flicks the pitot heat switch when you fire that command. Wether it is already on at the time or not.

 

The error there is you. You think >shift h

It it not. it is the "pitot heat (on/off)" command.

Pilot error. Not an FS error.

 

Really, you can trust the commands to do the same thing every time. You can probably trust them more then an actual switch in a real aircraft. Those are mechanical and could conceivably break, or get connected wrong. Not so in FS.

[HoratioWondersocks]

Andy,

 

lets say, a two engine aircraft.

you do:

e1=select engine 1

all commands after affect only engine 1, including "increasse throttle"

you start engine 1

 

e2=select engine 2

all commands after affect only engine 1, including "increasse throttle"

you start engine 2

 

e3=select engine 3

has no effect, plane has only 2wo engines

still engine 2 is selected.

 

e4=select engine 4

has no effect, plane has only 2wo engines

still engine 2 is selected.

 

Now advance the throttle,

Only engine 2 revs up.

 

If you press e, nothing after, both engines selected.

Because e is the "select all engines" command

 

If you press e5,

both engines are selected.

e5 is not an existing command, fso FS sees you press "e, and then nothing"

so all are selected,

Because e is the "select all engines" command

 

 

You can avoid all this by just selecting "e" from the start.

Then the commands affect both engines,

they both start together,

and the throttle affects both engines equally.

 

 

 

If you think FS does one thing on time, and something else the next, you are wrong. FS is not a sentient being. It doesn't "suddenly decide to do something else" on it's own.

"shift h" flicks the pitot heat switch.

You can use it to switch the pitot heat on.

It will always do this.

Unless YOU have left the pitot heat on in the previous flight, and start from that saved flight.

Because then it also flicks the pitot heat switch. But now the pitot heat is of course going to be switched off.

Not because FS decided "this time I won't flick the pitot heat switch"

But because FS is a program, and flicks the pitot heat switch when you fire that command. Wether it is already on at the time or not.

 

The error there is you. You think >shift h

It it not. it is the "pitot heat (on/off)" command.

Pilot error. Not an FS error.

 

Hello again

Thanks for your detailed reply.

I am sure your right on this.

Anyway as I say I usually fix that particular issue ( only one throttle working )which doesn't happen very often ,by simply reloading the aircraft.

Maybe I was trying another combination and not E1 ,2,etc .

I am going to check my functions.

 

Cheers Andy