AI aircraft flew the coop

[sparky347]

Awhile ago I noticed AI aircraft were missing at airports and also leaving or approaching airports, not even being noticed in ATC.

I even have my sliders pretty well maxed out, buit still no AI aircraft to be seen. The other AI traffic, that is to say ground traffic, trucks ,baggage trucks,carts etc seem to be ok.

It even seems to be not only in free flights ,but also in missions where there should be AI aircraft .there doesn't seem to be any.

In some missions where the AI's are used as eye candy those seem to be ok.

So not sure what is causing this. Some addon ? scenery? mission? etc etc.

Would running the repair from the disks fix this? Or is it much more complicated?

[il88pp]

About leaving and approaching without ATC, I just noticed two aircraft departing RW 18 without clearance. But at the other runway end, wind directoion different, they contacted tower ok.

I suspect that airports RW36 has the correct hold short point in the airport's .bgl file, and the RW18 does not have a hold short point, or the wrong type of hold-short point.

I'll have a look at the file to fix it at some point, and try to find this thread to post an answer. But I'm not in a hurry to fix this airport. So don't wait up for a definite answer from me. Could be months from now.

 

Anyway, if it only happens at on e airport, it may be a hold-short. Fixable b using ADEX Airport Design Editor X.

If it happens at all airports it is probably caused by something else.

[mrzippy]

I have no idea where il88pp was going with his comments! Maybe he thought he was posting to another thread??

 

You say you lost AI aircraft. Were these the default World Travel, Orbit Airlines, etc?

 

Missions use default aircraft as AI. Have you deleted any default aircraft or certain liveries of the default planes?

[il88pp]

Not the wrong thread.:) He said: "....and also leaving or approaching airports, not even being noticed in ATC."

That's what I responded to.

No idea where the rest of his traffic went.

[il88pp]

Actually, about the missing AI.

You may have installed a few FS9-type AI plans.

If there are FS9-type palns and FSX type plans both installed, only the FS9 type plans will show up in fsx.

 

The fix: convert all the FS9 plans that were installed to FSX-type plans using the program AIFP3.

(AI Flight Planner 3)

When they are all FSX type, suddenly all traffic will show up again.

 

Explained fully here:

https://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/showthread.php?282842-Where-do-AI-airplanes-go

[sparky347]

Ok thanks guys.

mrzippy: I don't believe I deleted any default aircraft. I know I have deleted addon ,payware,freeware ones in the past but no default ones...... I don't think

Is there a specific folder for AI planes? As in the Simobjects/airplane folder. Or is that kind of a hidden file?

il88pp..... Yes from another website and from the guys there, one of them told me about that AI flight planner program. I did download it ,I think it was version 2 tho. I think I used it but don't think I found anything with it tho. Now I don't know where it is.

Maybe I'll try Version 3.

The last question. If all else fails, could I maybe run the repair from the original disks , or would that just create more of a foul up.

Maybe just live with no AI's.? All those thing would do was get in my way anyway. LOL.

[il88pp]

traffic is a combination of a trafficfile (a .bgl file) and an aircraft.

For each airline there is a trafficfile, and then several aircraft are used by that.

 

If you remove one of the two, the traffic is gone. Not all.

But if trafficfile "A" uses aircraft 1,2,3 and 4

and you delete aircraft 2 and 3

then those aircraaft will not show anymore, and the others will.

 

Also there is the thing of the FS9 .bgl files.

We saw many threads here go: "all my traffic disappeared."

Very often it turned out the person installed one FS9 .bgl

(sometimes those are even part of an AIRPORT addon!! )

 

After a long search they see one airline flying somewhere.

While all their traffic files are still in place in the folders they should be in.

Then AIFP (2/3 doesn't matter) fixes it. By converting that one trafficfile to FSX-type.

 

(As we thought happened with Jorgen in the thread I posted.)

[sparky347]

Ok thanks il88pp. I really am pretty computer illiterate so really don't understand alot of this stuff.

I'll maybe try the AIFP3 program. If that doesn't work, I'll likely just forget about it ,and live with no AI traffic.

Unless anyone else wants to add something.

Otherwise thanks everyone for trying to help. Problem is alot of times I'm beyond help. LOL

[REDDAIR]

I decided to download freeware which added jetways at one airport and I also added enhanced changes at other airports I use. These moves now prevent much of the AI traffic from using them, or so it seems. Before the change, it was normal to see many AI parked at gates and taxiing, now I see very few in those positions. The landings and TO appear as old. So now I dislike the changes, but hesitate to mess with removing the add-ons.

 

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[il88pp]

Disable aircraft shadows. On ground or on aircraft, not sure. Bad texture in jetway can cause aircraft to be invisable.

[REDDAIR]

Disable aircraft shadows. On ground or on aircraft, not sure. Bad texture in jetway can cause aircraft to be invisable.

 

Thanks for the help but the cupboard is still bare. There is one other aircraft in the scene, pretty typical, although I have the setting for ac traffic maxed. This thread started with a similar complaint, so I meant to say for anyone else--if you added something to airport scenery, beware of what else may change. It is likely the airport enhancement software washed out the AI aircraft from the tarmac--I don't know. Since the add-on was one of those types you click a single button, I would not know what to tamper with to amend it, nor would I chance it. Plus, since I do not know what specific add-on it was, now I am lost with it! Pretty lonely taxiing a jet around with no other aircraft in sight!

 

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[il88pp]

Sometimes an airport addon contains traffic with it. If that traffic is FS9 type, only that will show. (and you will mostly see it at that airport, as it is usually touch and go flights only.) All you fsx type trafficplans will no longer show the resulting aircraft.

 

To fix, uninstall the airport addon. Disable one by one in the scenery library to find which one it is. Then uninstall iut from the scenery library, and delete it from the addon scenery library afterwards.

 

Or, download and install AIFP3, and make it search the entire FSX folder for fs9 type traffic plans. Then convert the fs9 type plans to fsx type. (and delete the fs9 type versions)

When all is fsx type, it will all show again.

 

How to convert them is explained very well in the link I gave earlier.

[il88pp]

if the jetway thing came with an autoinstaller, install it to a separate folder and then search that folder for .bgl files. They could be trafficfiles, or objects or airports. With aifp, or ACA try to open the .bgl files, to see if they are trafficfiles.

(and convert if needed.)

[il88pp]

The only other thing I can think of is that perhaps your new jetways messed up (covered) all the parking positions at the airport.

No parking space--No Ai

 

You said it all started after a very specific set of addons. (jetways and more)

Why not just uninstall all that?

[REDDAIR]

The only other thing I can think of is that perhaps your new jetways messed up (covered) all the parking positions at the airport.

No parking space--No Ai

 

You said it all started after a very specific set of addons. (jetways and more)

Why not just uninstall all that?

 

Thanks for the multiple answers/scenarios. I'll start working on this Sunday. I have to caution myself--I am a one man destructo team with a computer keyboard in hand. I will have to go slow and with caution---like a beginner pilot.

 

Redd