GridNorth Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 I'm attempting to minimise the use of the mouse for flying the default 737. I have the Saitek Yoke, Throttle, Radio panel, and Multi-switch (AP) panel and I have been quite successful so far by using these and remapping a number of keyboard keys but I cannot find the command for resetting the barometric pressure (Altimeter Calibration Knob) I've also noticed that the MFD mode knob is a bit erratic. Is there anything I can do about this, can it be "mapped"? And why isn't the adjustment knob allowing me to set the QNH settings as advised by ATC it seem to stay around the 29.00 range no matter what I do. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 I can answer one question. Barometric pressure is reset by pushing B. Being an old chopper guy I usually fly low and slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GridNorth Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share Posted January 23, 2016 Only if you haven't remapped your keyboard and even then it doesn't set it to the QNH given by ATC but thanks anyway. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Only if you haven't remapped your keyboard and even then it doesn't set it to the QNH given by ATC but thanks anyway. Alan Well, I just used mine with two different planes. And yes I still am using standard keyboard settings. It sets exactly to ATC values every time I've ever done it. Have you gone to the mission page in your cockpit? If so, you'll find a listing of standard keyboard assignments. Note I said standard assignments. Being an old chopper guy I usually fly low and slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzippy Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Setting QNH...millibars. As long as you have in your Settings/General/Units of measurement set for meters/millibars you would then set the QHN given by ATC or ATIS on the standby altimeter. The PFD will always show the U.S. reading 29.XX-30.XX That's assuming the default 737-800. Still thinking about a new flightsim only computer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il88pp Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 I think (after looking up your previous posts) that as you are using FSUIPC -Registred Version (mention such details next time!!!!!!!!!!!!) and you ae also mixing in assignments from fsx and from the saitek menu. There is no easy answer. It really depends on what you set up. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GridNorth Posted January 24, 2016 Author Share Posted January 24, 2016 Sorry I should have mentioned that but the question still remains. What is the command to reset QNH to that announced by ATC, either in FSX or FSUIPC. Whilst messing around I adjusted the setting from what appears to be a default 29.92, which I think is inches, and got a warning from ATC that I was above my allotted height but I could not adjust the barometer to that of the local ATC. I've set my units to Hybrid (feet, millbars) but the PFD shows inches so even using the mouse does not work. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzippy Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Sorry I should have mentioned that but the question still remains. What is the command to reset QNH to that announced by ATC, either in FSX or FSUIPC. Whilst messing around I adjusted the setting from what appears to be a default 29.92, which I think is inches, and got a warning from ATC that I was above my allotted height but I could not adjust the barometer to that of the local ATC. I've set my units to Hybrid (feet, millbars) but the PFD shows inches so even using the mouse does not work. Alan I don't think there is a way, unless you reprogram the PDF gauge, to make it display Millibars instead of Inches of Mercury. The only QNH display is on the Standby Altimeter. Still thinking about a new flightsim only computer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzippy Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 The 737 will only show millibars in the standby altimeter not in the PFD. I set my FSX for feet-millibars. Now in the Airbus A-321 you can change the reading in the PDF for either inches of Mercury or Millibars. Still thinking about a new flightsim only computer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Yes, My bad there. I didn't notice you were looking for millibars rather than inches of mercury. Just curious, I've "flown" to various places on every continent and if ATC ever reported pressure in millibars I certainly didn't notice it. Possibly because whenever I get a pressure statement I just push B and it has always reset correctly. Where is the ATC you're talking with? I don't remember being there or hearing that from ATC. Yes I've read millibars on many RW weather charts. But no, I haven't heard them on ATC. Of course I also haven't RW flown for many years. (I was a pre-metric push pilot) Being an old chopper guy I usually fly low and slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzippy Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Yes, My bad there. I didn't notice you were looking for millibars rather than inches of mercury. Just curious, I've "flown" to various places on every continent and if ATC ever reported pressure in millibars I certainly didn't notice it. Possibly because whenever I get a pressure statement I just push B and it has always reset correctly. Where is the ATC you're talking with? I don't remember being there or hearing that from ATC. Yes I've read millibars on many RW weather charts. But no, I haven't heard them on ATC. Of course I also haven't RW flown for many years. (I was a pre-metric push pilot) I'll bet in your FSX settings under General, you have it set to U.S. Standards- feet and HG or inches of Mercury. Still thinking about a new flightsim only computer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GridNorth Posted January 24, 2016 Author Share Posted January 24, 2016 I can reset and all is fine. The problem was caused by me making an adjustment then, as I neared an airport the ATC gave me a QNH of 1032 or something like that followed by a warning that I was not at my planned altitude. I was trying to adjust to that QNH but couldn't. I'm sure I'm getting my terminology and units all wrong. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 I'll bet in your FSX settings under General, you have it set to U.S. Standards- feet and HG or inches of Mercury. UH Huh, especially since the whole flying world speaks in English I thought that made sense. Now I'll have to change the settings and see how the plane reacts. However, I'd still think that whenever ATC gave a barometric reading the B key on a standard keyboard would make the correct pressure update. Frankly I'm probably not making a lot of sense tonight. I wore myself out shoveling our 2" (.05 meters)of snow in 38*F (3.33* C or 276.48 K) weather today. This winter has really been tough here! Being an old chopper guy I usually fly low and slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 OK, Maybe I'm having yet another a senior moment. However I set my plane up for metric etc. inputs and flew into and out of Berlin. (The capital of the country that lost two (2) World Wars trying to control all of Europe then won the same battle without having a shot fired by inventing the ECU.) Having lived, driven, and worked in Bavaria for over a year I wasn't concerned about the metric issue. I found from an engineering standpoint I could convert temperatures into Kelvin just as easily as metric. So to do a test I took off from a Berlin airport in manually induced great weather & manually changed the weather at least six times during my fight. Each time I made a weather change I talked with ATC and got a different reading in millibars. Each time I just pushed B and my plane responded to the change with no issues. In fact I dialed in such bad weather I had to make an ILS approach to 9 under very bad IFR conditions. It worked perfectly the whole flight. Did my stock Lear 45 show millibars on the gauge panel, no. Did the autopilot and altimeter respond exactly to the changing pressures and the plane fly correctly, yes. I still don't understand the issue being discussed here as being a problem. We all throughout the world must be able to adapt and make things work as they are today, not yesterday, today. Being an old chopper guy I usually fly low and slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egsjr1956 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 If I may, I'll add two things to this conversation. One, In the general settings change to millibars. In the default 737, if you hover mouse over the barometric knob it will display millibars with the tool tips on. The PFD will still display inches. I know you said you wanted to elimate mouse. Now in your FSUIPC under button and keys map the B key to one of your buttons. FSX will simultanuously reset inches and millibars. GPU: GeForce GTX 1080 CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K CPU@4.2GHz Memory: 16.00GB Ram Resolution: 3840 x 2160, 30Hz Seiki 39†Monitor Operating System: Windows 10 Home Edition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GridNorth Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 Now I understand a little more and have watched the tutorial a dozen times :-) I realise that my question is a bit stupid, if not downright confusing. Apologies. So my simplified question is this: Why, on the video does ATC quote Altimeter readings whereas on my set up it quotes QNH? Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzippy Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Now I understand a little more and have watched the tutorial a dozen times :-) Alan You now have dropped a "New" fly into the soup!:confused: Exactly what tutorial are you watching? Whether using QNH (Millibars-1003) or HG (Inches of Mercury- 29.92), ATC will always say "Altimeter". That's what the gauge is called. Success! Now I'm confused! Still thinking about a new flightsim only computer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GridNorth Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 Both ATIS and ATC are saying "QNH" not Altimeter. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzippy Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Both ATIS and ATC are saying "QNH" not Altimeter. Alan OK, got it! In my earlier screenshots with my settings set to Hybrid, I was at my test airport LO8 in California. That's why it said Altimeter 1013 or whatever. I did the same test at Heathrow and now it's saying QNH 1013. I guess it matters what part of the world you are in as to what is said. Still thinking about a new flightsim only computer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il88pp Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 I'm a bit busy, but if I had time to help I would Google: 29.92 and Google: qnh [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GridNorth Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 Thanks for the help guys, I did think it may have been a USA/UK thing but I still get QNH at KLAX. I'm now understanding the terminology and the theory. I can see that both are displayed on the steam gauges but they are not very clear. The video is a YouTube one from FS Pro on a flight from Exeter to Guernsey. His ATC says Altimeter, mine says QNH. It's not a big deal but now I want to know why as a matter of principle. :-) Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzippy Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Thanks for the help guys, I did think it may have been a USA/UK thing but I still get QNH at KLAX. I'm now understanding the terminology and the theory. I can see that both are displayed on the steam gauges but they are not very clear. The video is a YouTube one from FS Pro on a flight from Exeter to Guernsey. His ATC says Altimeter, mine says QNH. It's not a big deal but now I want to know why as a matter of principle. :-) Alan Did FS Pro state that he had his settings at Hybrid and did his ATC say "altimeter-1013" as oppose to "altimeter-29.92"? Still thinking about a new flightsim only computer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Thanks for the help guys, I did think it may have been a USA/UK thing but I still get QNH at KLAX. I'm now understanding the terminology and the theory. I can see that both are displayed on the steam gauges but they are not very clear. The video is a YouTube one from FS Pro on a flight from Exeter to Guernsey. His ATC says Altimeter, mine says QNH. It's not a big deal but now I want to know why as a matter of principle. :-) Alan +1! I'm still confused but this is starting to make sense, I think. Of course the coffee compared to wine probably helps too. Being an old chopper guy I usually fly low and slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GridNorth Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 His says Altimeter 3016, mine says QNH 1013, he then adjusts the barometer knob to reflect this. He doesn't say in this video that his settings are Hybrid but he does in another video showing his settings. I have tried all three settings to no avail. Is it possible these settings are saved with a flight and that when I change them in settings and then load a pre saved flight I overwrite them? Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzippy Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 His says Altimeter 3016, mine says QNH 1013, he then adjusts the barometer knob to reflect this. He doesn't say in this video that his settings are Hybrid but he does in another video showing his settings. I have tried all three settings to no avail. Is it possible these settings are saved with a flight and that when I change them in settings and then load a pre saved flight I overwrite them? Alan Sounds good...Great explanation! Now one more experiment to try. While doing my daily constitutional and being exorcised, I hit upon the idea that maybe..just maybe this could be an issue with EditVoicePack. I have mine set to U.S.A phraseology and not European. I'm going to test this now. UPDATE after testing I tried all 3 phraseologies at Exeter Airport, UK. They all use QNH. I now suspect that you are also using EditvoicePack and maybe he wasn't. That's the best I can come up with. OK, now I need to read your postings better. His was reading "Altimeter 30.16" because he didn't set the metric settings...DUH! Still thinking about a new flightsim only computer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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