VC and eye point issues

[Sselv]

Gents, I am back to FSX after a few years away. I was OK at it before, now much of it has left me! Anyway I got a new computer now Windows 10.....on a nice I7 6700 3.4 ghz processor, 16 gig RAM and a GTX 745 card. I'm using a 40 inch Samsung 1080p TV as a monitor....maybe that's my problem. Noo currently using the HDMI, but instead the "digital" output.

And here is the problem.....I just can't get the eye point in the VC's to get to a place where I can see it as I should based on if I was actually in the seat. I cannot get far enough back to see all the panel or high enough to see out the windshield properly.

 

Frustrating, but must be a fix. I have FSX delux with sp1 and 2. For now flying FSX planes from the game. At one time years ago, I had it all worked out with Nhancer and tweaks, etc. But now I am struggling.

 

Any help would be appreciated

 

Steve

[il88pp]

You did remember the zoom function I hope.:)

just in case not, press backspace (to unlock zoom), then press "-" and "=" to zoom in and out.

[PhantomTweak]

Were you aware there is a line int he aircraft.cfg file where you can set your VC eyepoint?

 

[Views]

eyepoint=-1.0,0,3.65 //3.85

 

Longitude (fore/aft), latitude (left/right), vertical (up/down).

You can change the numbers, test, change, test, etc until you are where you want to be.

for a real good explanation, read through THIS PAGE.

There are also a large number of keystroke combo's that will move your eyepoint about. Since my memory is so lousy, I'll just tell you to look down through the Kneeboard Key Assignments page to find them. There's a bunch. Most folks memorize the few that work for them.

There is also a line in the Panel.cfg file that sets the 2D eyepoint. I normally just use that line for setting the Horizon Lines in HUDs right on the world's horizon. It looks like this:

 

[VIEWS]

VIEW_FORWARD_ZOOM=0.75

VIEW_FORWARD_DIR=11.000, 0.000, 0.000

 

Often, there are other lines in that section, but they don't matter to this particular discussion. For a great explanation of all the lines that section might contain, read through THIS PAGE.

 

Hope all that rambling helps a little bit...

Pat☺

[ScatterbrainKid]

VIRTUAL COCKPIT EYEPOINT MOVEMENT

(Hold keys down to slide your eyeballs)

SHIFT Enter= Up

SHIFT Backspace=Down

SHIFT CTRL Enter= RIGHT

SHIFT CTRL Backspace= LEFT

 

CTRL Backspace= Forward

CTRL Enter= Back

 

Hold CTRL and hit SPACE= Reset

For example here are some Cessna 172 shots from various eyepoints including various zoom levels, and don't forget you can pan around to look out the side/rear windows-

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/sub2/FSX-eyepoint1_zpsmqamutj3.jpg~original

 

 

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/sub2/FSX-eyepoint2_zpsffzoxuzl.jpg~original

 

 

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/sub2/FSX-eyepoint3_zpszw3jg2bu.jpg~original

 

 

And you could even crank your eyes over the side to see what's ahead in open cockpit planes-

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/ExIS/cpitE.jpg

 

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/ExIS/cpitF.jpg

 

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For good measure here are the 2D cockpit keys, you can only go up and down in 2D-

(Hey noobs, remember the VC and 2D c/pits are completely different things)-

2D COCKPIT SEAT RAISE

CTRL Q= Up

CTRL SHIFT Q= Down

 

DC-3 example, normal view

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/CMSF/FSX-2D1.gif

 

 

and seat raised-

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/CMSF/FSX-2D.gif

[Sselv]

You did remember the zoom function I hope.:)

just in case not, press backspace (to unlock zoom), then press "-" and "=" to zoom in and out.

 

 

This seems to have done the trick......thank you. I don't recall seeing these in the keystroke commands sections?

 

Plus I'll try some of these other suggestions. Is there a way by editing these files that I can get the eyepoint to be where I have adjusted it to as a default? Seems like that's my understanding of what I read here.

 

Thanks Men,

[il88pp]

If you find that each time you fly you first set the eyepoint up and left for example, you can use Pat's method to put the default start position there. That way you don't need to set it up each time.

It's also the spot takes you.

I'm not sure if you can set a default zoom level there. Don't think so. Besides, zooming out is not fiddely, I would just do that by hand.

I have a joystick key assigned to "look - forward" or maybe it's "view - forward". That makes you look straight ahead, and does not change the set zoom or move the current view position. That button sees a lot of use!

[CptCaveman]

You can set a default zoom level if you set it up during your default flight for C&D.

 

For example my zoom level is set to 50% in my C&D save, so every aircraft has the zoom at 50%.

[PhantomTweak]

I have a joystick key assigned to "look - forward" or maybe it's "view - forward". That makes you look straight ahead, and does not change the set zoom or move the current view position. That button sees a lot of use!

That's CTRL+SPACEBAR, and I use it a LOT myself :D I just kinda keep my joystick buttons for Gear Up/Gear Down, Flaps + and Flaps -, Reload Aircraft, Anti-Skid Toggle, and so on. The Hat is good enough to look around, and then it's CTRL+SPACEBAR again. And again, and..ad nauseam :p

Is there a way by editing these files that I can get the eyepoint to be where I have adjusted it to as a default?

Please refer to my first post about editing the Eyepoint in the aircraft.cfg file.

Remember to make a BACKUP of any file you edit BEFORE YOU START!!!

I think that's slightly important :D

I'm not sure if you can set a default zoom level there.

For the 2D cockpit, it's in the Panel.cfg file, in the [Views] section.

the line reads VIEW_FORWARD_ZOOM=1.0500 and obviously can be set to anything you like.

I thought I read someplace, and now I can't find it of course, that there was a setting in the FSX.CFG file to set the default VC (3D) cockpit zoom level. I am sure someone will tell me I'm wrong, but I really do recall that from another thread on a similar subject...

 

Good luck!! Hope all this helps a little bit...

Pat☺

[il88pp]

Pat, I thought about what I said there carefully. Just didn't have PC running to check the specific names.

 

Control Spacebar is:

"Eyepoint Reset"

(directs view forward and moves viewpoint in the VC back to default position.)

 

The button I assigned on the joystick is:

"Look Forward (3D Cockpit)"

(directs view forward without moving viewpoint in the VC.)

 

 

Very different functions. Try it once. (I use both, as applicable).

 

cheers, il.

[Sselv]

good stuff guys......I'm watching......uh reading!

 

thx again

[il88pp]

Pat, I think for the 3d vc it's in the cameras.cfg file. But, that affects all aircraft, not just one.

Also, you really don't want to mess that file up. Make sure to have a backup if you decide to edit it.

(an error would mess up all planes views.)

[PhantomTweak]

Yup! That was it, thank you, il! I have THE worst memory, I swear (quite often).

And I agrree. ANY file that gets edited should have a back-up copy made first. Always always! I try to mention it whenever I say "Edit thus and such a file ...", but once again, my memory... sometimes I neglect to mention it.

So, thanks again for the reminder :D Besides, reinforcement can't hurt.

 

There is a line in the Camera.cfg file, the [CameraDefinition.001] section, that reads InitialZoom = 0.75. It can be found in the same place as the FSX.CFG file.

I believe changing that will change the zoom in the 3D cockpit. ALL the planes' 3D cockpits, so yeah, care must be taken, but it WILL set the zoom to start out. I have seen that line in the EYEPOINT section in the aircraft.cfg file, but changing it doesn't seem to make any diffrence.

 

And naturally, the eyepoint can be set on a per-plane basis, just not the zoom, but that isn't hard to change, really. I just hit + or - on the keyboard. I never hit the backspace key first, but I'll give it a try...

I've found that I learn something new every day, if I'm not really, really careful! I try hard, but it still happens. :D

 

Have fun everyone!

Pat☺

[il88pp]

I find that sometimes the - and = keys get 'stuck'. Backspace gets it going again.

But I don't know when/why it gets stuck.

Maybe it is after switching views or something (inside/outside, or 3d/2d/3d) but I'm really not sure.

I'm too busy thinking 5 minutes ahead of the plane to remember what the last thing I did was.:)

[ScatterbrainKid]

I find that sometimes the - and = keys get 'stuck'. Backspace gets it going again.

But I don't know when/why it gets stuck.

Maybe it is after switching views or something (inside/outside, or 3d/2d/3d) but I'm really not sure.

I'm too busy thinking 5 minutes ahead of the plane to remember what the last thing I did was.:)

 

The zoom keys sometimes stick for me too, so it must be an FSX issue and thankfully not a computer issue..:)

[Mark Hurst]

The zoom keys sometimes stick for me too, so it must be an FSX issue and thankfully not a computer issue..:)

 

There are no 'zoom' keys, the + and = are mapped to functions called 'increase selection' and 'decrease selection'. These functions are context dependent - when the main 3D view has focus they vary the zoom. When something else has focus, they do something else. Tuning the radio, for example.

[CptCaveman]

There are no 'zoom' keys, the + and = are mapped to functions called 'increase selection' and 'decrease selection'. These functions are context dependent - when the main 3D view has focus they vary the zoom. When something else has focus, they do something else. Tuning the radio, for example.

 

There is a zoom key. Its on the mouse scroller. Press and hold space bar and scroll to zoom.