mess in Seattle

[alexzar14]

I bet we all should have it. Those who don't have it probably knew how to remove it, please advice.

Ugly default factory and storage objects overlapping the city scape.

First shots show the FTX Base/Vector and T2G KSEA (one of them is with PNW I thing), the third shot is of out of the box virgin-FSX with no scenery added, proving the objects come from FSX itself. I find them hard to ignore because they are right in view on approach to KSEA rwys 16 and they look irritating.

[ScatterbrainKid]

The 'Scenery complexity' slider at top right usually thins out unwanted default FSX buildings-

 

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/sub2/FSX-graphD_zpshtdfhvwb.jpg~original

[Flattermann]

If you are wishing to exclude them, the scenery layer is 0101 Basis and the scenery file is OBX15150. You could them extinguish eg with InstantScenery :rolleyes:

[alexzar14]

That shall also "thin out" half the city landmark buildings and important airport scenery details, won't it? :)

[alexzar14]

If you are wishing to exclude them, the scenery layer is 0101 Basis and the scenery file is OBX15150. You could them estinguish eg with InstantScenery :rolleyes:

 

thanks! do you know what else is part of the 0101 Basics?

Typing from work, can't wait to try it out...

[ScatterbrainKid]

That shall also "thin out" half the city landmark buildings and important airport scenery details, won't it? :)

 

It works fine in my VFR GenX Photoreal scenery (below).

Look, this top pic is cluttered with badly-positioned default FSX buildings overlapping the roads etc with the slider towards the right-

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/sub2/FSX-phot3_zps6zkstqon.jpg~original

 

 

And this pic is with the 'Scenery complexity' slider moved towards the left, it culls out most default buildings and leaves the landmark buildings intact, but i dunno if the slider will work with other brands of addon scenery..:)

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/sub2/FSX-phot2_zpsshgng6ej.jpg~original

[Flattermann]

I think it could be a huge objects. The (not so expensive) payware InstantScenery can scan the scenery files and shows you all the Objects, Gen. buildings and Exclusions. Then you can delete all the objects you don't like.

BTW my scenery is the default FSX scenery!

[alexzar14]

Thanks, will try. The second shot looks scarcer however, something I want to avoid.

If I were you I would try FTX England, these are made to work with default buildings and autogen (the Seattle phenomena must be an exception...)

[alexzar14]

Disabling 0101 did not work, it removes the Boeing field along with the factories.

Will have to try Instant Scenery.

 

By the way, note what T2G KSEA does to the container loading terminal "island", it adds city autogan to it which is disastrous. I know it is T2G KSEA, tried enabling/disabling. Also adds ugly ship models. Ok with ships but the island is horrible. And the crane is half way in the water and some other buggies.

[alexzar14]

If you are wishing to exclude them, the scenery layer is 0101 Basis and the scenery file is OBX15150. You could them extinguish eg with InstantScenery :rolleyes:

 

 

Flattermann do you know which files are the bridge to the harbor port island and the harbor island itself?

[Flattermann]

Hi,

all the objects result to the same BGL 15150 (as I said - see the attachment). You can't delete the whole BGl!

Have you installed InstantScenery? Maybe you could try the exclusions with the freeware whisplacer (FSDeveloper.com) but I am not sure at this program.

[alexzar14]

Thanks. There is one object that is within the other .bgl, it is the bridge, there must be a bridge between Seattle industrial area and the port island, which is passing over the island and continues to the other side. Please please please check what file has the bridge in it.

 

I don't mind buying the program, I'm just afraid I'll have a problem figuring it out.

[kingnorris]

I know many people don't like it, but this is why I use photoreal scenery when I can.

[Flattermann]

Alexzar14, if you mean the bridge you can see in the front of the picture, it is part of the base. There are no green marks. You can try to exclude the bridge with SBuilder13. I don't know other ways!

[alexzar14]

No, it's this bridge. I want to include it, because T2G KSEA or FTX excluded it from the scenery.

[Flattermann]

Sorry, but I think it is the same bridge. Bridges seldom are part of a Bgl-files. You also could exlude and put them in the scenery with SBuilderX313.

InstantScenery is a very fine tool for all wishing easy to change often objects in the scenery. I am from Austria and my English is not so good. The program is in English language and so I don't think you would have difficulties with the English manual. But I am not so sure you could solve your bridgeproblem with this program.

[CaptainTower]

I was curious about this scenery anomoly sp I created a flight from PAE to SEA. I used the RWY 16 ILS Approach so I would be consistant with the ground I covered. I also changed the settings to match the shot in this post. I flew th Boeing 738 at 3000' and watched carefully with the panel minimized. I also took several screen shots from 20 nmi out down to 7 nmi out. I saw nothing even resembling the screen shots here. Then I remembered I had installed Ray Smith's KSEA. I uninstalled that and still saw nothing amiss.

 

I have FSX Accleration installed. [Correction: I have FSX Deluxe installed] I even went back to my settings and changed the Scenery Complexity and the Autogen Density to Extremely Dense. I saw none of the problems you show here in these shots. If I knew how to do it, I would upload the screen shots I made so you could look at them.

 

Do you have some additional scenery installed in the Seattle area or some program that might be interfering with FSX?

[alexzar14]

I was curious about this scenery anomoly sp I created a flight from PAE to SEA. I used the RWY 16 ILS Approach so I would be consistant with the ground I covered. I also changed the settings to match the shot in this post. I flew th Boeing 738 at 3000' and watched carefully with the panel minimized. I also took several screen shots from 20 nmi out down to 7 nmi out. I saw nothing even resembling the screen shots here. Then I remembered I had installed Ray Smith's KSEA. I uninstalled that and still saw nothing amiss.

 

I have FSX Accleration installed. [Correction: I have FSX Deluxe installed] I even went back to my settings and changed the Scenery Complexity and the Autogen Density to Extremely Dense. I saw none of the problems you show here in these shots. If I knew how to do it, I would upload the screen shots I made so you could look at them.

 

Do you have some additional scenery installed in the Seattle area or some program that might be interfering with FSX?

 

The scenery concerned is Taxi2Gate KSEA. I at last figured out what's going on there, they have purposely altered default Seattle files and scenery to improve performance (total disaster though). This is not correctable so I left it alone. I retrieved default Seattle file, in addition to that there is one file in 0101 folder which must be placed above T2G KSEA scenery in order for default Seattle to show up. However, this file, besides the city and port harbor, also has KSEA airport in it, and that is showing up thru the T2G KSEA scenery.

[CaptainTower]

The scenery concerned is Taxi2Gate KSEA. I at last figured out what's going on there, they have purposely altered default Seattle files and scenery to improve performance (total disaster though). This is not correctable so I left it alone. I retrieved default Seattle file, in addition to that there is one file in 0101 folder which must be placed above T2G KSEA scenery in order for default Seattle to show up. However, this file, besides the city and port harbor, also has KSEA airport in it, and that is showing up thru the T2G KSEA scenery.

 

Oh. I didn't catch the Taxi2Gate KSEA part. I thought that was default SEA scenery and that's what confused me. Sorry.

[Rupert]

The scenery concerned is Taxi2Gate KSEA. I at last figured out what's going on there, they have purposely altered default Seattle files and scenery to improve performance (total disaster though). This is not correctable so I left it alone. I retrieved default Seattle file, in addition to that there is one file in 0101 folder which must be placed above T2G KSEA scenery in order for default Seattle to show up. However, this file, besides the city and port harbor, also has KSEA airport in it, and that is showing up thru the T2G KSEA scenery.

 

OK! Now that makes sense! I'm using ORBX FTX for all of that coast from Northern California through to Alaska. I've shot that approach at least 20 times in various aircraft and at various settings and never found the tanks and other items you kept showing.

 

I'll agree, oftentimes the default scenery is better than added scenery. Not most often, but a lot more often than many people realize.