I guess some were right about the 182RG...

**Leo112** · 06-13-2005, 02:49 PM

After doing some extensive pattern work with Carenado's Cessna 182RG, I have to admit there is definitely a problem with induced drag and ballooning. I set the 'Induced_Drag_Scalar" to 2 which helped the drag problem. NO JOY on the ballooning issue. At times this bird reminds me of the Flight1 PC12 with full flaps deployed...

I had to write Carenado on this one...

**Zevious Zoquis** · 06-13-2005, 05:47 PM

They might be more inclined to respond if you spell their name properly... ;)

**ladamson** · 06-13-2005, 10:05 PM

>After doing some extensive pattern work with Coronado's
>Cessna 182RG, I have to admit there is definitely a problem
>with induced drag and ballooning. I set the
>'Induced_Drag_Scalar" to 2 which helped the drag problem. NO
>JOY on the ballooning issue. At times this bird reminds me of
>the Flight1 PC12 with full flaps deployed...
>
>I had to write Coronado on this one...

After landing again and again with a saved flight, I'm starting to wonder if it's even a big enough deal to mention. I'm already aware that high wing Cessna's have a pronounced ballooning effect through the initial stages of flap deployment, but I can't say with 100% accuracy, what the effect is when going full 30 degree's.

But landing this plane, has been what I call a non-event, yet I read this same thread at ####, which has ten or so replies, and you'd almost think it's un-landable or something.

Ladamson

**Leo112** · 06-13-2005, 10:38 PM

Oops, your right... :P

**Leo112** · 06-13-2005, 10:54 PM

Ladamson I've flown Cessna 152s, 172s, and 182RG's with friends.. Yes just like any plane when extra lift is added to the wings you'll have the nose raise causing you to push the nose down a bit and trim until the POH spead for that flap setting is reached. That can be more of a non-event depending on what speed you’re at to begine with. It's totally different concerning the Carenado 182RG. What you have here is little lose of speed with gear down and full flaps. Instead of loosing speed and therefore descending requiring extra throttle to keep things manageable, you find yourself pushing the nose down all the way to the runway with idle throttle. Cessna's don't hang in the air like kites unless you have an extremely heavy headwind (the way this bird acts I'd say like a tropical storm type headwind).

**Leo112** · 06-13-2005, 11:07 PM

Straight from the horses mouth, Carenado got back to me on this issue...

"Thanks for your feedback...Really you are ok ...but the reason is simple.
The real plane what I use as "original model", is equipped with a Horton Stol
Kit because Im working in a possible new STOL version and I forgot to make the
correspondant exchange of some parameters to the standard plane used to make
the definitive standard 3d model...well ...our Beta Testers was working with me
with the "other project" (STOL) and they was very happy with the "final
cut"...LOL :) Don't worry because finally you will fly the normal 182 rg. A
Service Pack will be released ASAP.

About STOL capabilities of the Cessna 182 RG...yes is true but with a Horton
Stol Kit the behavior of the RG is very close to your actual Carenado 182 RG.
We hope in a future to introduce this fantastic STOL performances to our
customers with the correspondant 3d model obviously. By the moment excuse the inconvenience...
Finally thanks again for your feedback and happy landings!!"

I guess that put's this one to rest... :-)

**ladamson** · 06-13-2005, 11:27 PM

>Ladamson I've flown Cessna 152s, 172s, and 182RG's with
>friends.. Yes just like any plane when extra lift is added to
>the wings you'll have the nose raise causing you to push the
>nose down a bit and trim until the POH spead for that flap
>setting is reached. That can be more of a non-event depending
>on what speed you’re at to begine with. It's totally
>different concerning the Carenado 182RG. What you have here is
>little lose of speed with gear down and full flaps. Instead
>of loosing speed and therefore descending requiring extra
>throttle to keep things manageable, you find yourself pushing
>the nose down all the way to the runway with idle throttle.
>Cessna's don't hang in the air like kites unless you have an
>extremely heavy headwind (the way this bird acts I'd say like
>a tropical storm type headwind).

If you read my reply at ?????, you will notice, that I loose quite a bit of airspeed. It's like the C/S prop, full forward/fine pitch, is really doing it's thing. For the record, I've flown plenty of 172's including older ones with 40 degree flaps, and also a Cessna 206 which is larger than the 182; but only as a passenger in a 182 fixed gear. I figure the 182 has to be somewhere in between the 172 & 206.

Ladamson