This might be dumb but how do you land?

[jay110299]

I'm kinda new to this though, I just never get how do you land with the aircraft's nose went up? What should I push or press the button? I really want to know. Thank You.

[Gadgt]

Go through the tutorial that is included with FS2002 and it will walk you through all of the proceedures for landing.

[wolfpack27278]

To land correctly you should be bleeding your speed and altitude, then right before (1-10ft) touchdown you will pull back on your joystick, stall the plane out (so that it decends) then stick your landing.

Its a lot easier said then done, try doing the "Learn How To Fly" Student Pilot Landing 1 (with the hoops) so you can see what I mean!

[faosfx]

He he, tell me about it. I can land just about any plane in FS VFR but back then in the FS98 days I couldn't even land the Cessna 182, lol...now I can land a jumbo jet night or day in VFR or IFR conditions :o)

[lnuss]

You don't actually land an aircraft, you just get the wheels 6 inches off the ground and hold it there, with power at idle, until it eventually settles in. Granted that this statement needs some amplification. You establish precise control in the traffic pattern, slowing to approach speed (1.3 times stall speed is a good reference point for many aircraft). Then you must get precisely aligned with the runway, and establish a rate and angle of descent that gets you to the runway with plenty of it left on which to land. Once you are a little above the runway, you slow, then stop your descent and, as I said above, hold it off, hold it off, don't let it touch...

But first, you must be able to control the aircraft precisely, before you can really land or fly the pattern well. It is for this reason that student pilots don't practice takeoffs and landings (other than the one necessary one at the beginning and end of each flight) until they've had several hours of work on controlling the aircraft in turns, climbs, descents and straight and level, as well as some practice on ground reference maneuvers (since the wind changes how things look and behave). So I'd first look at the HowTo on flightsim.com called: How To Control The Aircraft.

This HowTo gives you a condensed version of what real student pilots go through in their first few hours of flight, with instructions for practicing maneuvers on your own in FS.

Next I'd look at the HowTo called: How Aircraft Fly and How To Control Them.

This one gives you a lot more detail on how an aircraft flies and how the controls work, along with a bunch of other stuff on flying.

Then, in the FS98 FAQ on flightsim.com, go to section "5. FLYING" where you'll find a lot of good information on the subject.

I'd also take the tutorial flights built in to FS2002. They're not perfect, but you can learn a lot from them.

Finally, the FAQs and HowTo's on flightsim.com have a wealth of information on flying and simming, and I'd suggest that you peruse all that information. You'll learn a lot! If those bring up questions you don't see answered there, then certainly come back here to get more information and answers.

[HR]
Larry N.

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[faosfx]

the moral of the story: flaps slow you down and a descent can be achieved by maintain a certain airspeed you adjust until you think you are on a path headed straight for the runway numbers when you get down close enough iddle out and flare...you will soon find out its like riding a bike you just got to get the hang of it and when you do you will see yourself landing anywhere ;o)

[faosfx]

Oh yeah its a whole different story when you're IFR.

[flyinggriffin]

It is no different if you land VFR or IFR. Principles are the same. You still flare at the same time, but adjust where your touchdown point if you are using a VASI or PAPI. A competent pilot can fly 90knots over the fence with a Skyhawk or 65.

[jhender501]

I believe there's an "adventure" in FS2K2 called "landing
in Oakland" or some such (there's a couple...you don't
want the one that has you landing a 737 in a thunderstorm)..
uses the 172 set up to land at 27R at OAK. You can practice
and practice forever on that one..that's how I learned to
land in FS4, lo these many years ago.

of course, the tutorials mentioned will help as well.


Jim

[SkylaneRG]

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Get in a 172. Take the plane up to about 5000 feet, add full flaps, and then pull the power to idle. Try to maintain altitude and keep the aircraft coordinated (little ball on the turn coordinator centered with rudder) and when she stalls, lower the nose and add power to full. Do it again until you can loose no more than 50 feet. Now get back up to 5000 and pretend you have a runway at 4500. Pull the power to idle and attempt to maintain altitude until you stall. You will loose no more than about 50 feet on the recovery but not landed....good you just proved to yourself it is impossible to stall the aircraft 500 beet above the runway and crash if it is done right.

Now do it again but instead of stalling it, maintain altitude and when your speed gets to about 65 kts, allow the aircraft to descend and hold that attitude. When you reach about 4550, gradually pull the yoke back, pitch up, and then stall the hell out of it. If you reach stall and sink simultaneously when reaching 4500, you just landed your first plane. Once you are comfortable doing this and feel you have achieved success, then proceed to the runway environment and instead of watching the altimiter, watch how close the runway gets to aircraft. Practice, practice, practice. I learned to fly in Flight Simulator first and then did it for real in an aircraft. Got my license too.

This is why during flight training the FAA requires slow flight and stall development as a prelude to properly landing a plane in a nose high attitude. When you get real good then you can experiment and trick out a 172 by landing it in a full stall just as your wheels grease on or at 500 feet above threshold, kicking it into a slip and dumping all flaps last minute to grease in a stall...sweet!!

Have fun.