is this article allowed

**newguy** · 02-27-2003, 11:00 PM

concorde loses piece of rudder in-flight. part lost considered "not critical"

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe...rde/index.html

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**junky354** · 02-27-2003, 11:26 PM

Intresting, seems like it isn't a big deal anyways.

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**AlaskaAV** · 02-28-2003, 12:00 AM

Sometimes it is unbelievable what aircraft can do in emergencies with a proper flight crew.
Disregard the heavy military aircraft of the past for this thought.

Upon departure out of SFO a Pan Am 707-320, enroute to HNL, blew number one engine just after liftoff which then caught fire. It finally dropped off as well as the outboard 22 foot of the wing. Engine landed in a school yard but no injuries. There were some onboard that filmed the separation. The captain elected to proceed to a military base nearby and, as I understand it, he even had to make a missed approach due to winds and came back around for a perfect landing. Most passengers reported to the media that the landing was smoother than the one inbound to SFO. I understand the same flight crew took a replacement aircraft to destination and only 4 passengers of the 154 did not reboard. Boeing said, at the time, that the aircraft should have not been able to fly in that condition (no time to dump fuel so overweight landing).
Never tell a pilot that something cannot be done with his aircraft or he/she will most likely prove you wrong. The captain just does not tell the aircraft it can't be done so it will not know any better. Works for a Super Cub too.

Ernie

**dohcmark8** · 02-28-2003, 06:38 AM

Hmmmm..... Me things Concorde is going bye bye very soon, it's old, not very advanced, and yet so AMAZINGLY SEXY AND BEAUTIFUL IN THE SKIES.

**AlaskaAV** · 02-28-2003, 07:15 AM

And very expensive to maintain.

**flyinggriffin** · 02-28-2003, 08:05 AM

So was the Connie, but you only see them at the rare airshow. I doubt you will ever see the Concorde or any other airliner flown at an airshow 50 years from now.

**Holliday** · 02-28-2003, 11:57 AM

Back in 1983 an IAF pilot landed his F-15D with one wing missing. All but about two feet of it was gone. He had to come in hot, real hot, but it worked.

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**OStateFlyer** · 02-28-2003, 12:43 PM

Anyone else remember United 232, Al Haynes and his crew? If not look it up...a truly interesting and tragic story of great piloting and teamwork.

Brad

**AlaskaAV** · 02-28-2003, 12:56 PM

[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON Feb-28-03 AT 12:57PM (EST)[/font][p]And they came so close to pulling it off. Odd thing is, as I recall, it was Capt Haynes last flight because of the mandatory 60 retirement age. What a team they were.

Ernie

**wileyecoyote** · 02-28-2003, 04:59 PM

Yes, I remember. Actually, the first time I was 'told' was when I watched a movie about the accident. But let me tell you, if there is one flightcrew I respect for their efforts to save the passengers, it must be them.

They really did the impossible. Later, in the simulator, nobody had been able to recreate the flight so far. Truly a heroic story, and considering how many people survived a truly amazing accomplishment as well.

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