Well, let's get to it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbWhneKEF6U

I don't see the moving forward in it. Still no bouncing on the air or on the ground (Ezdok effect). Scenery is in more detail for sure. But, is it all just photoreal? Why not showing/using panning during landing? I can't shake off the feeling of short changing.

Comments?

Cheers,

PS: Let's be civilized about it please.

The biggest problem I see it that the stuttering is just as bad as FSX or P3D. If the full sim is as bad as that you can count me out for sure. That's as civilized as I can get given that it's a real disappointment.....

Doug

Yes, I forgot to mention that. Kind of weird for someone to think/expect that nobody else would notice it. Microscopy will be redefined in late April when the School comes out.

Cheers,

The youtube vid ran smooth as silk on my laptop, no stuttering at all.

I hope the full sim lets the pilot swivel his head around VC style, and I hope there's an external pannable view of the plane.

OK. What can I tell you. I've downloaded the video in all it's 1080p, HD, 60 FPS glory. As I write this I'm watching it on an Asus PA248Q monitor at 1920x1200 with a 60Hz refresh. And...........

It stutters...I don't know how anyone can call this "as smooth as silk"...

Doug

 

It stutters...I don't know how anyone can call this "as smooth as silk"...

 

Doug

+1 Just like Porky Pig! "Th-Th-Th-Th-Th-... That's all, folks."

KNOTS, KNOTS KNOTS! Not MPH.

Sent from my tablet thingy!

The biggest problem I see it that the stuttering is just as bad as FSX or P3D. If the full sim is as bad as that you can count me out for sure. That's as civilized as I can get given that it's a real disappointment.....

 

Doug

What stuttering? a slight flutter in the recording is normal won't be visible in the sim. NO AUTOGEN POPUP! FINALLY bye bye FSX and all the other related garbage! I won't buy FlightSchool but when the full sim arrives I am IN! .. I must say it does look even better than Microsoft Flight, the addition of Orbx FTX is awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbWhneKEF6U

 

I don't see the moving forward in it. Still no bouncing on the air or on the ground (Ezdok effect). Scenery is in more detail for sure. But, is it all just photoreal? Why not showing/using panning during landing? I can't shake off the feeling of short changing.

 

Comments?

 

Cheers,

 

PS: Let's be civilized about it please.

Is definitely not photoreal.

I guess we'll have to just agree that one man's flutter is another man's stutter. Whatever we want to call it, I'm not buying until it's fixed.....The early adopters will sort it all out.

Doug

I guess we'll have to just agree that one man's flutter is another man's stutter. Whatever we want to call it, I'm not buying until it's fixed.....The early adopters will sort it all out.

 

Doug

LOL take a look at some youtube videos. Any recording will have some stutter in it.

You have to let go of the past and move to the future.....Microsoft Flight was the future but people kybashed it because of lack of quantity and content. It has no autogen popup...heck the trees even sway in the wind.

No autogen popup what so ever in this vid...looks good. Lets not forget this hasn't even been released yet...they are still tweaking it.

I watched video in 720p and full screen and there was no stuttering anywhere. What there IS is pause (see gray on timeline). Pause it for 20 seconds and it will load the video so you can watch without the pauses. And it sure wasn't photoreal as there is TOO much autogen. So it could be your system specs (or DSL speed) that causes those flutters, not the video itself, which was perfect in my book. Buy Flight School? What $99 (ha)? I don't think so.

Chuck B

Napamule

From what people are saying in the youtube vid's comments section, Flight School comes with all the OrbX world scenery free. This guy in particular raises some good points-

"So, for $15 you get three GA aircraft, world wide ORBX scenery, 64bit enhancement and general tweaking, not to mention the training mission packs. That is a lot of content for $15 that will last you many more hours than a movie with popcorn or going out to eat. This is an evolutionary step toward the full simulator. They need feedback on this game to make decisions for the release. I love all the critical thinking and constructive feedback most people are giving, but for $10 less than fsx, when ORBX global base alone costs over $70. For a base game, it looks really good."

for a 64bit that is simply no btter than my current fsx.

yes i do have a good rig, yes i do have extensive scenery add ons , orbyx vector global plus regions and many airports, rex OD etc etc .

But this is simply not pushing a 64bit architecture at all?

Im not disappointed as i expected such.

Im guessing p3ds 64bit all still be the best big step in flight summing and that is still some way off?

not for me. .

From what people are saying in the youtube vid's comments section, Flight School comes with all the OrbX world scenery free. This guy in particular raises some good points-

 

"So, for $15 you get three GA aircraft, world wide ORBX scenery, 64bit enhancement and general tweaking, not to mention the training mission packs. That is a lot of content for $15 that will last you many more hours than a movie with popcorn or going out to eat. This is an evolutionary step toward the full simulator. They need feedback on this game to make decisions for the release. I love all the critical thinking and constructive feedback most people are giving, but for $10 less than fsx, when ORBX global base alone costs over $70. For a base game, it looks really good."

Flight School will be more similar to FSX:SE than to the un-named Flight Simulator due later, except locked down with no official addons, no multiplayer, etc. It's a strictly entry level product. Plus the training missions appear no more detailed than those already in FSX or Flight, tbh.

The bigger news is that the unnamed Flight Simulator coming later will also have OrbX but we don't know how much it'll be yet.

Hopefully there will be a keyboard series that mute Mr Instructor cause I can anticipate we not getting along for long. Once I know the objective he/she better bail out fast and leave me along. I'll do the rest.

Cheers,

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YOU'RE CERTAINLY CORRECT! IMHO: FSX Tutorials are better.;) And they even quote speeds in knots, not MPH.

And they even quote speeds in knots, not MPH.

The DTG PA-18 appears to have an ASI calibrated in MPH.

From what people are saying in the youtube vid's comments section, Flight School comes with all the OrbX world scenery free. This guy in particular raises some good points-

 

"So, for $15 you get three GA aircraft, world wide ORBX scenery, 64bit enhancement and general tweaking, not to mention the training mission packs. That is a lot of content for $15 that will last you many more hours than a movie with popcorn or going out to eat. This is an evolutionary step toward the full simulator. They need feedback on this game to make decisions for the release. I love all the critical thinking and constructive feedback most people are giving, but for $10 less than fsx, when ORBX global base alone costs over $70. For a base game, it looks really good."

LORD HAVE MERCY CHILD!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU???!!! "So, for $15 you get three GA aircraft, world wide ORBX scenery, 64bit enhancement and general tweaking, not to mention the training mission packs."

And if Santa doesn't see a chimney on your house, he finds an unlocked window to climb through on Christmas Eve.!:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

So, for $15 you get three GA aircraft, world wide ORBX scenery, 64bit enhancement and general tweaking, not to mention the training mission packs

Noone said that ORBX scenery is world wide. They are using the Orbx global textures and probably the trees, and three airports are highly detailed - with no option of expanding. If we are lucky they put Vector in the mix and maybe the Pilots mesh. But I somehow doubt it, not at that price tag. The training mission packs are actually the main feature of the product, I expect the "free flight" to be rather dumbed down.

TBH I don't understand the "but but but" comment. To me it looks exactly like FSX. And IIRC that is precisely what DTG said that they are doing - recompile FSX to 64 bit and close it down for addons.

The DTG PA-18 appears to have an ASI calibrated in MPH.

Yes,

That's my point. FSX, like the planes I flew RW, uses procedures expressed in knots with perhaps a secondary gauge card for those who want to compare to MPH or possibly in some aircraft, I have no idea, KPH.

Another example which I consider to be an incorrect rip-off of FSX. So yes, that's another reason it's not FSX.

FSX, like the planes I flew RW, uses procedures expressed in knots

Did you ever fly a Cessna 150? The flight manual describes all the procedures in MPH. Or a PA-18? That flight manual describes all the procedures in MPH as well.

I don't use the FSX missions but I expect they are scripted according to the aircraft they are flown with.

Did you ever fly a Cessna 150? The flight manual describes all the procedures in MPH. Or a PA-18? That flight manual describes all the procedures in MPH as well.

 

I don't use the FSX missions but I expect they are scripted according to the aircraft they are flown with.

No, neither one. Though there are probably other, especially older planes done that way as well. But if that be true, I don't recall seeing them.

The PA-18 in FSX is gauged in knots with a mph gauge in the background. I was comparing the FSX PA-18 to what I was told the DT PA-18 had.

The claim I tried to address was that DT was exactly like FSX. It is not.

there are probably other, especially older planes done that way as well

Yes, like the FSX P-51. And the FSX J-3 Cub. And the FSX Maule. (My FSX doesn't have a PA-18 so I'm not sure what you're comparing to.)