Captain Andy Poppens Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 when i reach mach 2 at 48000 feet the max cruise light comes on but the mach hold light doesn't the manual says that should happen but it doesn't why can someone help me please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwillmot Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 He's baaaaack ........ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Andy Poppens Posted September 19, 2015 Author Share Posted September 19, 2015 yes im back now can you please help me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwillmot Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 yes im back now can you please help me No [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Andy Poppens Posted September 20, 2015 Author Share Posted September 20, 2015 why not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger1962 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Mate, you've missed a step on the checklist. The best advice anyone here can give you is to read the manual (again. And again, until it sinks in, like the rest of us do). There are no real shortcuts in life or in the Concorde cockpit, so those chapters you skipped? That's right, even those. Who knows, this time next month we might be asking you for help, and that would be pretty cool... Tim Wright "The older I get, the better I was..." Xbox Series X, Asus Prime H510M-K, Intel Core i5-11400F 4.40GHz, 16Gb DDR4 3200, 2TB WD Black NVME SSD, 1TB Samsung SATA SSD NVidia RTX3060 Ti 8Gb, Logitech Flight Yoke System, CH Pro Pedals, Acer K272HL 27", Windows 11 Home x64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Andy Poppens Posted September 20, 2015 Author Share Posted September 20, 2015 i do follow everything in the manual and yet it wont cruise climb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pschlute Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 In normal cruise climb the MACH HOLD light will be out. It will only illuminate and reduce thrust if an overspeed situation occurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Andy Poppens Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 how does cruise climb work and how do i know when i'm cruise climbing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pschlute Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 how does cruise climb work and how do i know when i'm cruise climbing The most important thing about cruise climb in Concorde is the cog balance. Fuel movement between the tanks is important but the most important part of weight distribution was the positioning of the champagne trolleys. When the passengers were served drinks the trolleys would be moved around the aisles causing a forward shift in cog. This is why concorde would enter periods of level flight, and indeed if the front passengers were heavy imbibers it would cause the aircraft to actually descend a little until the trolleys could be moved further aft. You will know you are in the cruise climb when the champagne trolley warning light is illuminated on the overhead panel. This alerts the flight deck that the cog will be fluctuating and they can take appropriate action. In severe cases it was not unknown for the co-pilot or flight engineer to run to the back of the aircraft and sit on the floor to add some aft cog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Andy Poppens Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 how will the autopilot cruise climb give me some steps and what does cog stand for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pschlute Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 how will the autopilot cruise climb give me some steps and what does cog stand for You use the steps before you take off , to enter the aircraft. Best bet is to leave them behind when you take off. A cog is what should be whiring around inside your head while you read the manual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Andy Poppens Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 cog whirling around in my head lol i think you were trying to trick me with the champagne carts lol how do i know that the autopilot has engaged mach hold the light doesn't come on and the autopilot is set as trk hdg and max climb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pschlute Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 how do i know that the autopilot has engaged [in MAX CLIMB/MAX CRUISE] mach hold the light doesn't come on Refer to my reply yesterday at 1.39 pm. In MAX CLIMB/MAX CRUISE the MACH HOLD light should NOT be on. Using MAX CLIMB/MAX CRUISE is very simple: A/p on ONE a/t paddle engaged BUT NO SPEED MODE SELECTED Throttles full forward MAX CLIMB engaged .......... at M2.0/approx 48,000 feet MAX CLIMB changes to MAX CRUISE automatically The MACH HOLD autothrottle light may...I repeat may, momentarily come on , but will go out again. Confirm throttles are still at full forward (you must do this manually..the A/T system will not do this for you) That is it. No more button pressing. The aircraft will stay in MAX CRUISE climbing slowly for the rest of the cruise. If you get an overspeed the A/T will come on, you will see MACH HOLD light up on the A/T panel and the throttles will retard until you are back at MACH 2.00, then the MACH HOLD light will go out. You must then push the throttles forward again. On a typical London New York flight do not expect to climb any higher than 54-56,000 feet. Try London-barbados if you want the kudos of flying at FL600 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Andy Poppens Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 how will i know i'm in cruise climb cog whirling around in my head lol i think you were trying to trick me with the champagne carts lol the autopilot is set as trk hdg and max climb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Andy Poppens Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 and thats what i do the throttles are full but nothing happens what altitudes did concorde cruise at on a london to new york flight and new york to london flight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pschlute Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 how will i know i'm in cruise climb cog whirling around in my head lol i think you were trying to trick me with the champagne carts lol the autopilot is set as trk hdg and max climb Yes that's right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pschlute Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 and thats what i do the throttles are full but nothing happens what altitudes did concorde cruise at on a london to new york flight and new york to london flight fl 540-560 depending on temperature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pschlute Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 the throttles are full but nothing happens No. "The throttles are full but nothing happens" is what you say to your co-pilot at the start of the runway when you have accidentally turned off the engines before takeoff. "The throttles are full and I cannot ..... climb above xxxxx feet/maintain xxxxx speed etc...is what you need to say to me to get a meaningful answer. Or would you prefer we go back to the champagne carts? Your choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Andy Poppens Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 sometimes fl 580 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Andy Poppens Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 the throttles are full and i cannot climb above fl 480 and your killing me smalls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pschlute Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 sometimes fl 580 Sometimes a cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pschlute Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 the throttles are full and i cannot climb above fl 480 and your killing me smalls Ok , a faint glimmer of light is appearing, but i dont know what your smalls have to do with it. You are too heavy. You wont climb further intil fuel has been burned off (deja vu now), so go and join the passengers for some champagne until that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Andy Poppens Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 a cat? what do you mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Andy Poppens Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 your killing me smalls is a quote from the move the sandlot i shouldn't be heavy the virtual fuel engineer is on and mom won't let me have champagne because i'm 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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