shishkabab Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Whenever I load fs9 and load the pmdg 747, I get an out of memory error, even though fs9 only took up 300mb of memory according to taskmanager. I thought fs9 could take up to 3GB of memory. How could this be? RAM= 16GB Thanks. Edit: Forgot to mention that this only happens with the pmdg 747 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shishkabab Posted July 6, 2015 Author Share Posted July 6, 2015 These are the messages I get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shishkabab Posted July 6, 2015 Author Share Posted July 6, 2015 And this is how much memory it used before crashing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shishkabab Posted July 6, 2015 Author Share Posted July 6, 2015 Oh, forgot to mention this is only with the pmdg 747. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSkorna Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 It's virtual memory space you are running out of, not physical memory. http://www.air-source.us/images/sigs/000219_195_jimskorna.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wing_Z Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 I'd say there is good advice in the error message: "Contact the application's support team" = PMDG These messages generally have nothing to do with memory at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperPilot2 Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 It seems to me that you might be missing a .dll file that won't allow the PMDG 747 to load properly, shutting FS9 down. Hopefully others will chime in... Alan :confused: "I created the Little Black Book to keep myself from getting killed..." -- Captain Elrey Borge Jeppesen AMD 1.9GB/8GB RAM/AMD VISION 1GB GPU/500 GB HDD/WIN 7 PRO 64/FS9 CFS CFS2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pschlute Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 On the PMDG forums there is a thread which details exactly what runtimes are needed. You can do a search for it but here is an extract I copied from it a while ago: Microsoft DirectX runtimes full installer: http://www.microsoft...lang=en&id=8109 Extract to a temporary folder such as "DXTemp" on your desktop and then run the "DXSETUP.exe" file contained in the folder. Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 SP1 runtimes: http://www.microsoft...ls.aspx?id=5638 Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 SP1 runtimes: http://www.microsoft...ls.aspx?id=5582 Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 SP1 runtimes: http://www.microsoft...ls.aspx?id=8328 Those cover all the prerequisite files needed across our whole product line. I recommend a uninstal of the 747 and a reinstall after you have updated the runtimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shishkabab Posted July 7, 2015 Author Share Posted July 7, 2015 I don't have any virtual memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pschlute Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 I don't have any virtual memory. Yes you do, every computer does. Try following my advice regarding the runtimes, as they are clearly the cause of your problems. As a side note I see you have installed FS9 in C/program files( x86). This is not actually recommended so I suggest you turn off windows UAC when you do any installing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shishkabab Posted July 7, 2015 Author Share Posted July 7, 2015 Also the links are dead? (this page cannot be displayed) Program files even on an x64 windows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pschlute Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Also the links are dead? (this page cannot be displayed) Program files even on an x64 windows? If the links are dead you could try a google search for the required files. Best advice is to install Fs9 out side of program files folder on windows vista/7. I have no experience of windows 8 but imaging it is the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shishkabab Posted July 9, 2015 Author Share Posted July 9, 2015 I think I solved it It's probably because the pmdg aircraft for fs9 can't support my 3840x2160 screen resolution. So I resized my resolution to 2560x1440 and everything is fine. How ever I don't get how FSFW95, FS98, and FS2000 run fine at 3840x2160 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airfrance Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Your PC should not be running out of virtual memory at that state. That's virtually (no pun intended) nothing. The default FS install with no add ons uses like 300MB. You can change the page file size, which is ultimately the best option in my opinion. I have mine set very high, since I have a 1TB hard drive, I have the page file size set to use almost all of it, leaving about 100GB of free space. This way, you give your system almost unlimited virtual memory cause it's unlikely that FS will use nearly 900GB of memory. -Nick. W [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Dell XPS 8500 Intel i7 Quad Core Processor 3.50Ghz, 24GB ram, GeForce GTX 660ti 1.5GB GDDR5, 2TB hard drive, 24 inch LCD monitor, FSX Gold. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shishkabab Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 Oh, very interesting. How do you do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoman909 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Oh, very interesting. How do you do this? http://www.simforums.com/forums/the-fsx-computer-system-the-bible-by-nickn_topic46211.html Read this it tells you all about it plus a whole bunch of things to help you even more. I found it a great help anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgh Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 This way, you give your system almost unlimited virtual memory cause it's unlikely that FS will use nearly 900GB of memory. FSX running on Windows7 on a 64-byte system has a maximum of 4GB of virtual memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airfrance Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 FSX running on Windows7 on a 64-byte system has a maximum of 4GB of virtual memory. That's not what I'm referring to. And the original post is in regards to FS9, not FSX. If your PC isn't accessing enough memory, you can change the page file size. -Nick. W [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Dell XPS 8500 Intel i7 Quad Core Processor 3.50Ghz, 24GB ram, GeForce GTX 660ti 1.5GB GDDR5, 2TB hard drive, 24 inch LCD monitor, FSX Gold. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airfrance Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Oh, very interesting. How do you do this? Start > Computer > Right Click Computer > Advanced System Properties > Advanced > Performance > Advanced > Virtual Memory (Click Change) > Set the page file to Custom Size > Set the initial and maximum size to the same number > Click Set > Click Ok > Click Apply > Restart PC when prompted. NOTE: Check your total space available and make sure not to set it to the total space. Also make sure it doesn't come close. You still need AT LEAST 100,000MB free that's not set to the page file size. -Nick. W [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Dell XPS 8500 Intel i7 Quad Core Processor 3.50Ghz, 24GB ram, GeForce GTX 660ti 1.5GB GDDR5, 2TB hard drive, 24 inch LCD monitor, FSX Gold. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgh Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 That's not what I'm referring to. And the original post is in regards to FS9, not FSX. If your PC isn't accessing enough memory, you can change the page file size. FS9, like FSX is a 32-bit application and can use a maximum of 4GB. Changing the system page file size does not increase the virtual memory. No matter matter how large the page file size FX9 and FSX cannot use more the the Windows limit of 4GB. See "Memory Limits for Windows and Windows Server Releases" https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-gb/library/windows/desktop/aa366778%28v=vs.85%29.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomTweak Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Me, I set the Page File to 1.5 RAM Size. That seems to be a good rule of thumb for any system I've ever used... Just my 2 cp.. Pat☺ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Had a thought...then there was the smell of something burning, and sparks, and then a big fire, and then the lights went out! I guess I better not do that again! Sgt, USMC, 10 years proud service, Inactive reserve now :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 No matter matter how large the page file size FX9 and FSX cannot use more the the Windows limit of 4GB. And without the largeaddressaware flag set, FS9 can only access 2GB of virtual address space, even on a 64 bit OS. As Gerry said, the page file has nothing to do with the amount of virtual address space available overall, or how much each application can access. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shishkabab Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 Is this enough? (haven't changed anything). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 That's plenty. For most people leaving it at the default system managed setting will work just fine. On my system with 16GB of RAM I set the page file to 4GB for min and max size to keep it from using up too much space on my SSD. This works fine on my system as it doesn't make much use of the page file. Other systems may be different depending on what you do with the computer. The best way to check is to watch the system's memory usage in the Task Manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shishkabab Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 I can run the pmdg 747 fine at 2560x1440 resolution, but can't go any higher. I have a maximum if 3840x2160 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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