Please advise with sensitivity settings in XP.

Hello, I have a demo version which I am trying to get familiar with before buying a copy and starting with addons.

There is a crucial issue right now that I need to resolve before going any further.

Generally, I can assign all functions/buttons the same was as I have it with FSX so that is convenient. I do like it, I don't compare it to FSX and treat it for what it is.

My problem is the vertical stability and the sensitivity:

1. Aircrafts tend to pitch up/down despite the trimming.

2. (even more serious) - sensitivity. Aircrafts (big or small) over respond to even very small yoke inputs (I use CH yoke). I move yoke fee millimeters up/down and the aircraft will for like 600-800 fpm up or down (generally speaking).

Please advise on these issues, would like to go past it and start-seriously.

May I suggest that you read the following tutorial on how to configure flight controls in X-Plane ?

http://www.x-plane.com/?article=configuring-flight-controls

Should solve most if not all of your problems.

ok I have figured the sensitivities and null zones and etc... twins fly more or less ok but there is still a problem with a C-172 (assumingly with all lights and singles I would buy/install) that I wasn't able to solve:

Can't take off, it tends to throw itself leftwards. As it reaches 24-30 knots it is no longer controllable (rudder, diff breaks, aileron/yoke whatever). And at 45-50 knots it will go in a circle pattern. In the air it does flight straight although has a huge tendency to roll to the left. On the ground - a circle. PLEAAASSEEE..........

Anyway, I ordered a Global copy assuming the problem is resolvable (not fully but to some great extent).

Hm, I'm not going to open that can of worms (again).

One of the mods, Andy Goldstein, has written an excellent essay on roll stability in X-Plane

http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?showtopic=81200

It's lengthy, but worth reading.

I'm not sure, but your problem may still be hardware related.

Ok I understand the rolling issue, that's fine we can live with it.

The take-off and landing problem in a C-172 is something else though. Perhaps this won't be a problem in the full version.

Hi Alex.

The same problem exists in the full version. It's a problem that Laminar / developers failed to acknowledge and address. The more Xwind you have the worse it gets, to the point that it becomes useless. It is Not a hardware issue.

There is no fix for it that I know of, at this point, it has to be done by developers. There are adjustments you can make to the flight model to minimize the left / right turning in flight. TV

That sounds upsetting but we have two manual solutions as you say, bringing-in a bit of optimism... let's see:

1. we can minimize the wind strength.

2. (this one I like more) adjustments to be made to flight model. At this point I have no idea how to, but we'll get to this later as I go deeper into XP experience.

I watched a video on Utube with this very C172, the guy seems to be able to take off with it:

Oh boy, the worms are out of the can ... :)

I watched a video on Utube with this very C172, the guy seems to be able to take off with it:

Alex,

there is (a lot of) controversy around the roll stability during straight and level flight (no X-winds) in X-Plane

However, the need to apply right rudder during takeoff is fairly realistic in the X-Plane flight model, so I seriously think there has to be something wrong with your setup.

Oh boy, the worms are out of the can ... :)

 

 

 

Alex,

 

there is (a lot of) controversy around the roll stability during straight and level flight (no X-winds) in X-Plane

However, the need to apply right rudder during takeoff is fairly realistic in the X-Plane flight model, so I seriously think there has to be something wrong with your setup.

I now think it is the hardware indeed.

I am not into the roll effect discussion (we're past that subject), the problem is the ground steering. I can steer (any) aircraft at speeds up to 15 knts. Above 15 knts I can't steer any aircraft (single, twin like B58, Kingair, 747 jet, whatever).

A single like C172 will go in circles, and other aircraft with accelerate straight forward although no corrections to direction would be possible - there is NO response to steering inputs at speed above 15-20 knts.

Steering (the nose wheel tiller) assigned to CH pedals, the yoke is doing the pitch and roll.

Come on guys it must be a simple problem to solve, a matter of some option being checked or unchecked... I use a common hardware by CH.

Perhaps this tiller business I must reassign to something else...

ok I found a solution: disabled the pedal toe breaking and this made possible the ground steering with the yoke (aileron roll/ground steering combined).

Still, it takes a full right-deflection to keep the C172 straight on centerline.

Baron/Kingair ok but the dynamics... crazy behavior especially prior to touch down.

Big jets is the only thing that is flyable and even that has problems: any change in power/thrust or flap setting results in a radical change of vertical speed, so I don't know...

Hi Alex.

Wat you are describing is a different problem than the one you described earlier.

If you have No wind any / all of the planes should be manageable on the ground.

Post a pic. with your controller settings. It sounds more like you may have the same function assigned to two buttons of one or maybe two controllers.

Can you post what / how many controllers you have, Yoke and pedals and the assignments?

Look for something like the pics below to post. You can take a Screen shot, Shift+Space, if you are in Window mode, Rendering uncheck Full screen.TV

Here is my axis layout.

I have yoke, pedals and throttle quadrant. Of throttle quadrant I assigned only the functions of spoilers and flaps.

Looks like a common problem:

http://forums.xplanefreeware.net/topic/10791-severe-taxi-problems/

The post by Zimmerdylan (#4) is particularly interesting. So, assume, a Cessna by Carenado or Alabeo would be controlled well?

Hi Alex.

Try to assign the Yaw to what is now your Tiller and reduce your Null to about 20%.

If your ruder pedals are what is assigned to Tiller. If not assign your Ruder pedals to Yaw and remove the Tiller assignment. TV

Success!

Now I gotta learn to access and use the map/flight planner, don't even see it... fuel/weight load window, all these things... meanwhile the disc is to be delivered tomorrow or saturday.