Never in a million years did I think we'd ever see any type of truly immersive console sim that could compete against the PC. My wife bought me Steel Battalion for Christmas for my X-BOX, and let me open it yesterday since we will be away for the Holidays. All I can say, is if CH products made a flight sim controller similiar to this, I'd pay $400 for it. Lights, switches, knobs, 2 joysticks, and hat switches. And it's HUGE- at least 3 feet wide by my account. The pedals are bigger than the pedals in my Corvette. The game itself in unbelieveably immersive, and for the first time, it seems a console developer has made a game that will truly appeal to adult gamers. If you guys haven't heard of this yet, check out Capcom's website. The only downside it that currently, there is one game that supports the controller (Steel Battalion itself). They announced a sequel in the upcoming months, but I'd like to see 2 or 3 more.