Too Hot?

**TerryinABQ** · 08-02-2002, 05:34 PM

"Too Hot"

I am trying to find out if my P-4 2.2 GHz chip with 512k of L2 cache (.13 micon) is running too hot in FS2002.
My idle temps (computer on but not running anything) runs around 38-42C (100.4F to 107.6F). After running FS2002 and or after system lock-ups 46-54C (114.8 to 129.2F).

Intel says my 2.2GHz chip max temp should be 69C (156.2F).

My case only came with 6 cooling fans and I am using the CPU fan that Intel shipped with the chip. No over clocking. The average room temp is 70-75F.

Terry

**FlyerJeff** · 08-02-2002, 07:37 PM

My AMD 1.4 gets the same temps. It seems to be normal, so I guess theres nothing to worry about.

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catalinaflyer · 08-02-2002, 10:38 PM

Terry:
The temps you are quoting are well under the max temps that a P2.2 will be stable at. First off though, are you relying on the sensors built into your motherboard or have you actually taken the temp with a calibrated instrument??

I have a Soyo Ultra Dragon Plus Platinum with a 2200XP and the temps it reads compaired to actual are off as much as 60F. So, if my monitor says I'm at 120F I could actually be doing damage at 180F. Don't always trust the built in temp sensors. I have had 12 different motherboards over the past 18 months and not a single one came within 20F on the sensors. Some read high and others low.

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tjkotula · 08-02-2002, 11:32 PM

I wouldn't worry about these temps as long as they stay below the 60 degrees Centigrade mark. If you get anything higher than that, you need to look into a better CPU cooler. If you are concerned about your system temps, a $20 investment in a Coolermaster or Thermaltake CPU cooler just might do the trick in bringing your temps down further. While the cooler provided with the processing unit will get the job done, they tend to be noisy and less efficient than retail ones and with the money you save purchasing the OEM version of the processor (if you build your own that is!) you can easily buy a much quieter and more efficient cooler. You might also check on the placement of your case fans. As a general rule, you should always have at least one more exhaust fan than intake fan. Also, exhaust fans are most efficient when mounted in back, drawing air over the processor and out. Furthermore, check to make sure that they are good fans. It's hard to come across bad case fans, but sometimes it does happen and when it comes to case fans, four-pin connections are more powerful than three-pin connections even though you have to give up four-pin ports on your power supply to use them.

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**Biff** · 08-03-2002, 08:50 AM

46-54C isn't a problem. Temperature measurement on the P4 is actually quite reliable because the diode is inside the chip itself, and almost all boards use that.

Unlike its predecessor, the Athlon XP has an internal sensor as well, but unfortunately many Athlon boards continue to rely on an external sensor diode mounted under the CPU, which is far less exact.

**pvalexl** · 08-03-2002, 03:04 PM

You may also want to consider some Arctic Silver III thermal compound. I added it to my heatsink, and my Athlon XP saw considerably lower temperatures.

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indymotox · 08-03-2002, 03:13 PM

More cool air in and more hot air out. That is your goal. I cut another hole into the side of my case and went to a local hardware store got a 3 inch PVC pipe and glued it to the inside of the case and then placed a 4" fan on the outside directing air in onto my CPU and then placed one more fan in the front pulling cold air in the case and then 3 fans pulling hot air out. My temp temp dropped about 9 degrees and now hovers around 40 degrees and when in FS goes to about 44-45 degrees. Try that.

jcbass · 08-03-2002, 05:03 PM

Jeff,

I have the same processor and video card as you. I get lockups in FS2002 since putting in this card. Never had a problem with previous G2 card. Only have lockups in FS2002, and only in exterior views, usually when I am panning (changing views).

Do you ever have anything like this happen? Are you using the detenator drivers from Nvidia?

Thanks

**TerryinABQ** · 08-03-2002, 06:35 PM

Jeff,

Yes mine will lock up under those conditions and more. Usually when the 3D rendering is really in full demand. That and or after a long flight or coming out of X times operations to speed up a long flight. Come to think about it, I believe that this did start when I upgraded to the faster video card. I have tried most of the Nvidea drivers and currently have the WHQL 29.42s.

Terry

PS: I still think it is "Bad Code" on the part of Microsoft as why would so many of us have similar problems if they were strictly hardware.

**TerryinABQ** · 08-03-2002, 06:39 PM

Cat,

Your test instrument was calabrated? Motherboards do not have actual thermocoples on them, right? It is some sort of signal built into the chip they are monitoring?

Terry