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Thread: Taxiing the Carenado C-90 King Air (FSX Payware)

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    I have the Saitek X52 controls, and the Carenado C-90B tends to taxi far too fast if the Saitek throttle lever ("Power Lever" in Turboprops) alone is used for speed control. This necessitates frequent braking to control the speed, and the usual annoying bobbing up and down during each brake application.

    I have seen reports of similar problems with other control hardware.

    In my case. the following procedure results in a smooth and easily controlled taxi speed, so I wanted to pass it along. I realize this may not work for everyone, and it depends on using a joystick or control column with a throttle.

    First make sure your control settings under "Options" are set as follows:
    "Throttle Decrease Quickly", F2 with the repeat slider set at 50%. (This is to allow quick Reversing on Landing)
    "Throttle Increase", F3, Repeat slider set at zero.

    Procedure: (Parking Brake ON)
    1. Propeller Pitch Levers on the pedestal Full Forward.
    2. Condition Levers to Low Idle (Just out of Cut-Off)
    3. Power Levers (Throttle Lever control on my Saitek) at Idle.
    4. Release Parking Brake.
    5. SLOWLY increase Power Levers (wait for spool up) until aircraft movement is detected.
    Movement should normally start at about 0250 indicated on the digital torque readout unless the nose wheel has to be turned
    immediately to avoid colliding with something. In that case it will require more torque.
    6. After taxi speed is up to about 5 kts tap the F2 Key (Don't hold it down) to bring the power levers back until the
    bottom of the levers are just above the words "Ground Fine" on the console. This is in the "Beta" range between idle and Reverse
    Thrust. It should, in most cases result in the taxi speed increasing slowly to about 12 kts, then stabilizing. From here
    on tap the F2 or F3 key to adjust the taxi speed as desired with a minimum use of the brakes if required.

    Note: On the Saitek, if I move the throttle lever at all during taxi, it goes back up to "Idle" and starts to increase taxi speed excessively. On the real airplane there are "Lift Gates" that allow the F2/F3 thing to be done with the Power Levers alone, but this does not seem to be possible in flight sim.

    Editorializing: One of my peeves with the Carenado C-90B is that there are several times when you need to adjust something, but you either cannot see the results while doing the adjustment or cannot see where you are going due to the VC view set-up. This is the case to some extent here, and is even more of an inconvenience while trying to control the pressurization during ascent and descent.-End of Editorial

    I realize there are othe ways of doing this, but using the Beta range for taxi speed control is the way the real airplane is controlled according to the Manual and at least one real world pilot.

    Pertinent comments welcome (Flames expected but not welcome)
    Last edited by Schnell14; 05-27-2012 at 05:57 PM.

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    Condition levers should be brought back to ground idle on the ground - this is precisely what they are there for. From there it is easy enough to to control on brakes alone at low taxi speeds.

    While I am no apologist for Carenado, you seem to have missed that the VC step options include BOTH a very close up view of the pressurisation gauge and also the rate knob. If you know how to operate this kind of pressurisation system (and it appears you don't) then you should know that it is not adjusted during the climb or descent, but rather before climb and at TOC. You seem to have an incorrect understanding of what the gauge indicates. The following will help

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e_36...8&feature=plcp

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    Please ignore the Flame-it is standard from this individual for anything I (and most other people) write, and I expected it. (see the last line in my post).

    -If you are having a problem try the procedure-It can't do any damage. (I have inputs from a C-90 pilot on how the system should be operated)

    The Flamer is correct on one item though. The Condition Levers should be returned to low idle during taxi and left there until ready for takeoff. However, the Carenado C-90 still taxies too fast even with the condition levers in low idle, and requires too much braking unless you use the Beta Range between Idle and Reverse on the Power Levers.

    Regards,

    Schnell
    Last edited by Schnell14; 05-27-2012 at 12:25 PM.

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    Your information was incomplete and incorrect. It needed correcting, especially as it was the second time you'e posted it. It's not flaming to correct what was/is incorrect. It is stupid to do it twice.

    Oh and you are welcome for the link to the video. A link already posted in the Carenado forums. You know, where the right information is?
    Last edited by mallcott; 05-27-2012 at 05:35 PM.

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    Im surprised the OP wasn't tied up, beaten and forced to reveal his system specs.
    Dave Opper
    Support Specialist
    HiFi Technologies, Inc.

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    Dave,

    Don't worry, that will be the next post!
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    Quote Originally Posted by daveo View Post
    im surprised the op wasn't tied up, beaten and forced to reveal his system specs.
    rofl !!!!!!

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