Real ATC Voices, possible or utopia?

[us_Jorge_1985]

Hello Everyone

Finally I find a good configuration for my fs2004. Now it is very stable and I have good graphics but I still have the default ATC. ATC voices seem robotic and artificial and I wonder if it was possible to change the voices for other real ones. It´s a shame to fly with photorealistic ground textures, incredible sky thanks to REX Overdrive, real weather of Active Sky, aerosoft airports and robotic voices.

Thanks to everyone to help me to fix fs2004 bugs and make flying with fs2004 an enjoyable experience.

[NikeHerk67]

IMHO Radar Contact is a great add-on. I've had every version since v1 for FS2000.
http://www.jdtllc.com/

It actually works like real ATC in that it doesn't start to vector you until you're inside of 40nm from destination....just one of many realistic functions.

The default ATC starts vectoring you at about 70nm which is no where near reality.

Just one example that makes a world of difference.

[jgf]

Another option is Aerosoft's ProFlight Emulator Deluxe; I've not used it much since you must program your flight into it before starting the sim (8 meg of pdf manuals is a bit much for a lazy incipient geezer who just wants to get in the air). It controls AI, taxi, ATIC, SIDS, STARS, just about everything you'll need, even supports regional dialects in ATC.

[NikeHerk67]

There ya go! No matter what anyone suggests here, there's always a "one-ups-man", even though they've not actually used it much or know much about it.

From years of experience, I have to go with Radar Contact.
Doug Thompson, who is one of the originators and consultants for RC was an actual ATC in Memphis, TN for years http://www.jdtllc.com/images/doug2005.JPG
Your choice, your money.

[JSkorna]

Please relax, its just one more option for the OP to consider. Nobody is trying to be a "one-ups-man".

[sandokan]

The distance where the vectoring starts depends on the traffic quantity and the direction you are coming from.In the realty if you approach JFK in the afternoon coming from Boston,for instance,the vectoring starts at about 100nm of distance.
Sandokan

[pivek]

Is robotic voices the only problem with the FS2004's ATC?; in that case, EditVoicepack is a must have. With EditVoicePack is possible to change the phraseology as well as add airline callsigns, airports, and aircraft types. EditVoicepack already contains thousands of ready made entries and it allows you to accelerate the existing voices for a more realistic experience and better handling of traffic dense environments.

It is free too

NB: no "one-ups-man" here. I'd been using EditVoicepack for years.!!!!

[NikeHerk67]

The distance where the vectoring starts depends on the traffic quantity and the direction you are coming from.In the realty if you approach JFK in the afternoon coming from Boston,for instance,the vectoring starts at about 100nm of distance.
Sandokan

Sorry all, I didn't mean to sound harsh, but I guess it came out that way. Again sorry!

When I said vectoring, I meant vectoring by a terminal controller, not by center, who, yes, at times, vector aircraft off their preset RNAV STAR procedures. At 100 nm out a center controller can’t accurately determine which runway(s) will be in use by the time that aircraft gets inside terminal airspace which is normally =<40nm. They're usually vectoring aircraft from one of perhaps several STARS to another as example, or maintaining separation during heavy traffic hours, as you suggested, in the afternoon on the east coast.

RC gives the aircraft pilot an opportunity to fly a preprogrammed STAR, which brings them into terminal airspace.
In the default ATC, if you have a STAR programmed into the FMC, it's useless after 70nm out, and not within terminal airspace of the destination airport unless you choose not to contact the controller who you were handed over to at that distance.

[ronzie]

Let me clarify the arrival procedure of RC4:

At about 35 miles out from destination RC ATC will assign a runway based on ai behavior as first priority and then winds and runway properties. After accepting the first vector you can then request an IAP which lets you finish the approach under your own navigation using an FMC or GPS approach in your database ignoring the rest of the waypoints in the .pln sent to RC. All waypoints in the .pln sent to RC including those in the STAR outside of 40 nm must be in the .pln sent to RC and be in sync with the FMC/GPS waypoints.

STARs are chosen by arrival direction. If you have runway specific STARs that take you further in than 40 nm, just include the common waypoints to all runways. You can then choose vectoring or the IAP option to follow the rest of the FMC/GPS approach procedure to the transition point to get on final. In the IAP option you'll next hear from RC tower as you get closer on final.

For approach uncontrolled airports RC center will set you up to point you to a transition to get you on a published approach to finish on your own.

RC has as advisers real world pilots and controllers active or retired including those outside of FAA territories.

Regarding RC voices:

These are phrases recorded using real people and processed. You can choose a selection of voices to use and for each voice there is a pacing control. RC precombines the phrases when playing comms audio for a best as it can do fluid delivery. A lot has to do with PC disk and audio processing performance.

There is a freeware set of voices created by an enthusiast using the handle "meatwater" that can replace some of the voice sets in RC4. They can be downloaded here in ten parts from mwrc4vpv2_part01.zip to mwrc4vpv2_part10.zip. Some users prefer those. i have not installed them so can't comment on my own. Be sure to backup in a separate folder any original voice sets to avoid an RC reinstall if things do not go well and follow meatwater's instructions as to placement carefully.

[tgibson_new]

The other option is to hear real live voices when flying multiplayer with systems like Vatsim, IVAO (?), etc. I'm sure someone will chime in with the correct information.