Best Response i have seen in XPlane

**Doods** · 02-11-2012, 10:39 AM

This has to be the best.....

For those that keep insisting that 'X-Plane is about the flying not the scenery'!....may i just point out that Flying in the real world WITHOUT scenery would SOON put an end to all those pleasure flights and most GA aircraft!...its NOT all about getting from A to B...the WHOLE point of flight IN THE REAL WORLD and simulation is to experience the joys of flight and not just the flight dynamics or navigation instruments or equipment, the WHOLE experience!...the whole reason man wanted to fly in the first place was to LOOK down on the earth and fly in the clouds....NOT to look at boring instruments or nav aids!..............

X-Plane 10 is a big let-down in most areas...particularly the scenery..or obvious lack of it!...yet after a lot of messing about i have found myself still enjoying certain aspects of the sim which ARE ironically related to the scenery enhancements...namely lovely HDR lighting which adds a lovely extra VISUAL realism kick that FSX doesn't have....plus it does have lots of other nice touches that need to be experienced to start to understand the sim in better and more realistic ways than FSX.

X-plane 10's biggest challenge and promoted development features were an attempt at better visuals!!!..... lets not forget all Austins developer pics of all those new houses and roads and extra 3d realism he wanted to show off and was constantly hyping it up to that effect..

The actual flight characteristics haven't changed dramatically at all that i can tell from version 9...so version 10's main features ARE all related to its new visual enhancements.....sadly the lack of which are still glaringly obvious in most areas of the sim and result in threads like this!...

I still much prefer FSX but am now finding i also enjoy the odd flight in X P10 demo.....will i purchase the full version?....based on the demo, prob not looking at what i get (or dont get being more accurate!) with the extra bloated gigs of frustrating scenery discs!.....its just still too frustrating and lacking in VISUAL SCENERY AND VISUAL REALISM for me to jump head first into it!........but anyone who claims xplane is all about flight is being rather one sided, close minded, old fashioned and WRONG!!!.....its now trying (and failing in most areas!) to feature more accurate and visually aesthetic scenery and THEREFORE OVERALL satisfaction to try and appeal to a larger audience....

I remember the same old xplane fans A FEW YRS AGO saying 2d panels where more important than gimicky 3d Virtual cockpits! (prob cos Microsofts sim HAD lovely 3d cockpits lol!)...how WRONG they were then about that and how wrong they are now about xplane being purely just about the flying and NOT the seeing!.......Xplane 10 is a step in the right direction...its just a very frustratingly SMALL baby step!

**MdMax** · 02-11-2012, 12:03 PM

Hello !

Originally Posted by Doods

For those that keep insisting that 'X-Plane is about the flying not the scenery'!....may i just point out that Flying in the real world WITHOUT scenery would SOON put an end to all those pleasure flights and most GA aircraft!...its NOT all about getting from A to B...the WHOLE point of flight IN THE REAL WORLD and simulation is to experience the joys of flight and not just the flight dynamics or navigation instruments or equipment, the WHOLE experience!...the whole reason man wanted to fly in the first place was to LOOK down on the earth and fly in the clouds....NOT to look at boring instruments or nav aids!..............

I don't know who's insisting that "X-Plane is about the flying not the scenery", but I have to agree, the whole experience is important, and that's why I'm using X-Plane.

X-Plane 10 a "big let-down" in most areas ? I don't think so.

Happy flying with your favorite flight simulator(s).

**alaskancrab** · 02-11-2012, 01:18 PM

Dunno I must admit.. a lot of FSX aircraft feel like "enhanced yawing" instead of flying. Pointing the nose in the right direction seems to be more important that actual power management. Certainly not every aircraft is a PMDG or even close... Might have something to do with it's silly 1998 flight model that has never been updated.

**Doods** · 02-11-2012, 01:37 PM

Well i guess you have your Xplane FAN boys and you have your FSX FAN boys BUT i fly BOTH Sims.....

**MdMax** · 02-11-2012, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by Doods

i fly BOTH Sims.....

Fine !

**Doods** · 02-14-2012, 02:15 PM

Yes i have ultimate terrian.....

**MdMax** · 02-18-2012, 05:21 AM

Rouen (France):

Happy flying !

**Ragtopjohnny** · 02-18-2012, 12:56 PM

I still find it laughable that you all try to justify inaccuracies by a sims performance. Scenery is as accurate as anything else as well too. Without scenery, you might as well not have a sim.

John Thuot II

**callmecapt** · 02-18-2012, 06:58 PM

Johnny,
I don't think anyone's trying to justify anything. And it's that kind of "laughable" attitude that perpetuates the constant bickering in the Flight forums.
We're just happy with what we have and look forward to further improvements. It's a very different atmosphere in x plane where we actively support its development. Not like Flight and what people are saying about it...as is evident from Tom Allensworth closing the Flight forums at Avsim because of the constant, pointless and immature critical threads being made by what appears to be grown men.
No simulator has EVERYTHING. X Plane and it's developers never claimed x plane to be perfect and complete. Austin will always listen to someone when it comes to a criticism, as long as it is backed up by hard numbers and evidence.
You accept FSX in it's current form. X Plane users accept X Plane and it's constant improvements. Not to mention correspondence with the head programmer on his blog. When was the last time Phil Taylor (FSX head developer) spoke to a customer and answered questions in a personal blog?
FSX developers have already started moving to X Plane. And even PMDG have made plans to make the move..after being informed a little more, and the myths about the instability issues have been cleared up.
If you prefer FSX, hey, more power to you and I hope you make a million $$'s by making add ons for it.

**Ragtopjohnny** · 02-18-2012, 07:40 PM

Cap,

I hear what you're saying. I do.

I think I'm one though that goes for the more realistic scenery and flying aspects of FSX. Through Sim Savvy on top of that, I have the real U.S. now and other areas of the world.

If my attitude offends, I apologize for that. My headaches may be getting the best of me lately that I constantly suffer from.

Hope you make the $$ too for your add-ons, they are done quite well, and thank you for the well wishes with mine.

John Thuot II