Sent Msg to Microsoft

**boleyd** · 01-26-2012, 06:42 AM

Rather that posting here I sent a polite message to Microsoft, via Flight web site, with my strong concerns that this "appears" to be yet another children's game designed to get Daddy's wallet periodically plundered as the "team" releases new content.

***JSkorna*** · 01-26-2012, 07:03 AM

Hi,

They really don't care, knew the flightsim crowd would have this reaction, and will remind you that we are not the target market.

***tigisfat*** · 01-26-2012, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by JSkorna

Hi,

They really don't care, knew the flightsim crowd would have this reaction, and will remind you that we are not the target market.

I agree with you mostly, but they have repeatedly 'claimed' that we are still the target demographic, therefore they wo'nt come out and say anything of the sort. They'll just keep lying.

**ricardo_NY1** · 01-26-2012, 09:40 PM

I recall quite a while ago when I sent them a message regarding features and other things that I personally (Probably reflects some of the community's ideas) would like to have seen in the next version of Flight Simulator. Considering what I've seen and heard, I would not waste my time giving them any feedback regarding the product. I'll leave it to the 14 year old XBox gamers or whatever their target audience is to troll them about prestige modes and the like. FS9 for the win.

**vonBobo** · 01-26-2012, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by tigisfat

I agree with you mostly, but they have repeatedly 'claimed' that we are still the target demographic, therefore they wo'nt come out and say anything of the sort. They'll just keep lying.

MS's target demographic is our money, not our wants.

Typical short sightedness of corporate America- praising pie charts instead of customers.

***tigisfat*** · 01-27-2012, 12:12 AM

Originally Posted by vonBobo

MS's target demographic is our money, not our wants.

Typical short sightedness of corporate America- praising pie charts instead of customers.

The typical consumer assumes that everything corporate is evil. 99% of the time, what you want or need is indeed what makes a corporation money. If a corporation can make a lot of money AND have a happy customer base, they'll do it.

There were no meetings about 'screwing the sim guys'. I don't personally know anyone on the team, but to assume otherwise is stupid. I'm sure there were meetings about 'moving in another direction' though.

**alaskancrab** · 01-27-2012, 08:17 AM

What surprises me the most is people don't realize all those messages go to an outside PR firm and not Redmond where anyone can even act on it. Can't blame them with all this negativity it would be a huge distraction to the folks who obviously have deadlines.

**ricardo_NY1** · 01-27-2012, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by alaskancrab

What surprises me the most is people don't realize all those messages go to an outside PR firm and not Redmond where anyone can even act on it. Can't blame them with all this negativity it would be a huge distraction to the folks who obviously have deadlines.

What good is meeting a deadline when no one is going to be waiting on a line to buy your product? Whether messages are handled by a company's own people or outside sources, it's in their best interest to read them! Even the freaking presidents read mail from us.

**vonBobo** · 01-27-2012, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by tigisfat

The typical consumer assumes that everything corporate is evil. 99% of the time, what you want or need is indeed what makes a corporation money. If a corporation can make a lot of money AND have a happy customer base, they'll do it.

There were no meetings about 'screwing the sim guys'. I don't personally know anyone on the team, but to assume otherwise is stupid. I'm sure there were meetings about 'moving in another direction' though.

For large corporations that have boards at the top, decisions are typically made to fleece money out of consumers, instead of designing products that the customers want. Sure, the product may at first glance, appear that it is what the people have been asking for, but a closer look usually reveals that it has been skewed and morphed into something more about money generating smoke and mirrors, rather than meeting needs.

Your statement is a bit off target from where I was headed. The decision to port the sim into a game is purely financial, and had nothing to do with the wants of the simmers. I think you were even eluding to that in your last statement- MS turned their backs on the fan base that they state is still their target audience.

**zswobbie1** · 01-27-2012, 11:16 AM

What a waste of energy. Microsoft decided to release a game that could appeal to the youngsters & those new to flying. No more, no less. I cannot get over the arrogance to even think of contacting MS & moaning that we have been let down, taken for a ride, not meeting our needs, whatever. Who the h--l do we think we are? We sit like beggars on street corners expecting Microsoft to cater to our whims. As a consumer, it is my choice to either buy into Flight, or not, to improve the realism of my FS9 & FSX, or not. Either with freeware or payware.

As I have said here before, We paid for Flight simulation 9 and/or X. That, as we all know,is just the basic engine. All our add-ons have faar superceded the basic game. I still say,wait & see.

I was also just thinking about what I said wether this is a game or a simulation. I was a bit bored so... Solitare is a card game, or is it a simulation of cards?
I do not see or hear anything about moaning to MS that they have let us down by not releasing a better/upgraded/faster version. Sorry guys, I was very bored when I thought of this & it is only tongue in cheek!

We have choices, buy the thing, or don't. And also, I surpose, to bitch, moan & write letters when we feel that we have been let down.