Hawaii Only??

[Chrisrg2012]

Current speculation is saying that fsx is only going to include Hawaii... I believe there is nothing official from Microsoft in relation to this?
Is it realistically going to have just a handful of islands? I can't really believe that.

Firstly.. The Hawaii in the screenshots looks similar in detail to that of fsx.. I agree that there is an improvement in graphics, but in terms of realism it is relatively similar looking. Ie no photo satellite scenery, no exact landclass etc. surely if they were making a few islands would they not make them much more detailed?

Secondly, would it really take them more than 2 years to recreate a few islands in the same sort of detail they have done the whole of the world in previous sims?

I just feel that if they were making such a limited game it would be very different.. Or is it just me??

[fxsttcb]

Current speculation is saying that fsx is only going to include Hawaii... I believe there is nothing official from Microsoft in relation to this?
Is it realistically going to have just a handful of islands? I can't really believe that.

That is only the initial free download. More areas, planes, missions etc. should be made available for purchase when it is released, with further additions ona regular basis.

Firstly.. The Hawaii in the screenshots looks similar in detail to that of fsx.. I agree that there is an improvement in graphics, but in terms of realism it is relatively similar looking. Ie no photo satellite scenery, no exact landclass etc. surely if they were making a few islands would they not make them much more detailed?

Screenies can be decieving! Look at some of the original FSX trailers. Nobody knows(except MS) what kind of scenery, or it's resolution, will be included or offered as of yet.

Secondly, would it really take them more than 2 years to recreate a few islands in the same sort of detail they have done the whole of the world in previous sims?

I assume they are using the base ESP/FSX game engine and used the time to replace all of the variables and names to eliminate FSX compatibility. Completely writing a new engine, even for a smaller area(with planet wide capabilities), IMO, would have taken a lot longer. Again, until it is released, that is another unknown...Don

[Signalman1]

I'm speculating that MS Flight will have much more scenery than HI. How large these areas will be, and how often they will be made available, is anyone's guess. As someone who enjoys making medium-to-longrange flights in real time, I'm hoping that, ultimately, most of the world will be covered. The question is, how much of the world, and how quickly will these areas be made available. I also hope that ATC, navaids, GPS and real wx will be part of the mix. MS claims that they haven't forgotten the "hard-core" simmer so I certainly hope that full nav-aid support is provided, including GPS. And don't forget real weather, and expansion of the pool of aircraft (Props, Jets, turbo-props etc.)

Anything less than the above would be a step backward.

[SAM Hunter]

Hawaii?

It's just the preview!!!

The actual simulation will include all the world, but it is tuned more for non simmers than us...The game is being developed for those who are more of the X-box generation, although it will still have most flight sim adaptations, some of these have been altered… I just hope that us who love FS2004 and FSX will not lose the realism that can be accomplished with the programs currently on the market…

S.A.M. Hunter

David...

[angels355]

I believe most of the people here and on Facebook will agree that this is a step backwards. The FSX graphics are superior based on the fact that you need a powerful system to be able to run it while Flight can run on lesser machines, and I thought I saw it running on an X-Box at CES? What does that tell you? Also it is a closed system, no freeware from enthusiasts, no third party addons, all addons will only come from MS. Myself nearly all of my flights have been round the world flights. I think I've been around the world almost 500 times but I don't have my flight log in front of me.

Last week I did a short flight to try out FSX for the first time in the default 747. I liked the way it flew, however the plane's graphics and livery were terrible, looked fuzzy and it had a generic livery. Couple nights ago I downloaded the largest file POSKY freeware 747-8F in UPS livery, 70 mb's! It looked great, and it flew silky smooth. And it was all free (or if you want you can make a donation). MS is denying us that opportunity in FLight by refusing to give us the SDK. Also it is just warmed over FSX rehashed by the Games department which makes online console games. It will be very online oriented, and probably will run on an X-Box if you want to buy it that way but I'm just speculating. I have never flown in an online environment but many flight simmers have gone onto the Vatsim system for live ATC etc. It is FSX rehashed by the Game department that doesn't even know anything about flying.

I could be wrong, they could revamp it more to our liking, and might even have a change of heart if that is even remotely possible and give us the SDK. But still, in my opinion development of FLight was a waste of time when they could have stuck with the standard old fashioned format that is know to work and make a profit and which appeals to a fanbase that is ready to buy it. Instead they snubbed the hardcore flight simmers strangely hoping they "would not alienate" their customer base. Flight has created an uproar of unprecendented scale because despite all their NOT listening to us they produced a product which has completely missed the mark. How could they possibly be upset about our reaction, because they never listened to what we, the customer base, wanted? In the military, if this were a dinner delivered to the commanding officer, it would likely be thrown with force against the opposite wall.

[SAM Hunter]

I believe most of the people here and on Facebook will agree that this is a step backwards. The FSX graphics are superior based on the fact that you need a powerful system to be able to run it while Flight can run on lesser machines, and I thought I saw it running on an X-Box at CES? What does that tell you? Also it is a closed system, no freeware from enthusiasts, no third party addons, all addons will only come from MS. Myself nearly all of my flights have been round the world flights. I think I've been around the world almost 500 times but I don't have my flight log in front of me.

Last week I did a short flight to try out FSX for the first time in the default 747. I liked the way it flew, however the plane's graphics and livery were terrible, looked fuzzy and it had a generic livery. Couple nights ago I downloaded the largest file POSKY freeware 747-8F in UPS livery, 70 mb's! It looked great, and it flew silky smooth. And it was all free (or if you want you can make a donation). MS is denying us that opportunity in FLight by refusing to give us the SDK. Also it is just warmed over FSX rehashed by the Games department which makes online console games. It will be very online oriented, and probably will run on an X-Box if you want to buy it that way but I'm just speculating. I have never flown in an online environment but many flight simmers have gone onto the Vatsim system for live ATC etc. It is FSX rehashed by the Game department that doesn't even know anything about flying.

I could be wrong, they could revamp it more to our liking, and might even have a change of heart if that is even remotely possible and give us the SDK. But still, in my opinion development of FLight was a waste of time when they could have stuck with the standard old fashioned format that is know to work and make a profit and which appeals to a fanbase that is ready to buy it. Instead they snubbed the hardcore flight simmers strangely hoping they "would not alienate" their customer base. Flight has created an uproar of unprecendented scale because despite all their NOT listening to us they produced a product which has completely missed the mark. How could they possibly be upset about our reaction, because they never listened to what we, the customer base, wanted? In the military, if this were a dinner delivered to the commanding officer, it would likely be thrown with force against the opposite wall.

It sounds to me that FS2004 or FSX are the programs to keep on with...

S.A.M. Hunter...

(But let see what happens when it arrives...)

David...

[angels355]

It sounds to me that FS2004 or FSX are the programs to keep on with...

S.A.M. Hunter...

(But let see what happens when it arrives...)

David...

The way Flight has been presented is a disappointment beyond words.

Good luck to you.

[n4gix]

Hawaii?

It's just the preview!!!

The actual simulation will include all the world, but it is tuned more for non simmers than us...The game is being developed for those who are more of the X-box generation, although it will still have most flight sim adaptations, some of these have been altered… I just hope that us who love FS2004 and FSX will not lose the realism that can be accomplished with the programs currently on the market…

S.A.M. Hunter

David...

Sorry, but that just isn't true.

• Flight will be FREE, and include just one of the islands in the Hawaiian chain, Oahu the "Big Island".
• Flight will have one aircraft, the Icon A5.
• Once the user has completed the first two introductory training flights, they are then eligible to logon to FS LIVE and will receive the Stearman as a FREE "reward."
• If the user wishes, they can also purchase the rest of the Hawaiian Islands for an as-yet-unannounced number of "LIVE POINTS."

IOW, MS is going to milk the cow until the udders bleed, by nickle and diming us into submission...

[angels355]

Sorry, but that just isn't true.

• Flight will be FREE, and include just one of the islands in the Hawaiian chain, Oahu the "Big Island".
• Flight will have one aircraft, the Icon A5.
• Once the user has completed the first two introductory training flights, they are then eligible to logon to FS LIVE and will receive the Stearman as a FREE "reward."
• If the user wishes, they can also purchase the rest of the Hawaiian Islands for an as-yet-unannounced number of "LIVE POINTS."

IOW, MS is going to milk the cow until the udders bleed, by nickle and diming us into submission...

Don't mean to sound nitpicky but the Big Island is the island of Hawaii, the largest settlement there is called Hilo. The island of Oahu is where the big city is and where Magnum PI was filmed as a reference.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaii_%28island%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ha...chain_USGS.png

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilo

[SAM Hunter]

Man that sucks!!! I thought I read that more will be added on as time progresses but I was wrong… Sorry guy’s, my bad…

The press release make it sound so limited…

Check out here…http://www.microsoft.com/games/fligh...takes_to_skies


David...