XPlane 10

**Doods** · 01-16-2012, 06:40 PM

Well got my copy of xplane 10 today. and i'm not that happy with it.....Same airport fsx and xplane the airport CYTZ

***JSkorna*** · 01-16-2012, 07:33 PM

People will tell you how great that plausible world around Toronto looks in January. I'm sure you're happy with all those FPS you are getting from XPX though.

**Propane** · 01-16-2012, 07:44 PM

I tried it last week and I think it looks pretty ridiculous... I'm sure that nice effects can be achieved with addons, but the stock world looks pretty awful in my opinion.... and 50+ GB to get world coverage only to find that even some medium sized airports don't get any buildings at all, what the f...

***JSkorna*** · 01-16-2012, 08:01 PM

Ah, someone will come along and populate the airport or wait until v10.666.

**jomni** · 01-16-2012, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by Propane

I tried it last week and I think it looks pretty ridiculous... I'm sure that nice effects can be achieved with addons, but the stock world looks pretty awful in my opinion.... and 50+ GB to get world coverage only to find that even some medium sized airports don't get any buildings at all, what the f...

I was also shocked but X-Plane veterans are used to this. Airports are really bare since the beginning. It's up to you to get add ons. They will also release an editor for you to add buildings yourself, edit the taxi routes, and share them with the reset of the users.

You should acknowledge where X-Plane comes from. X-Plane is more about the flying. The environment is bare because most commercial (non-entertainment) sims don't have highly developed sceneries. And X-Plane is coming from that perpective. It's not about sight seeing (though flying at high altitude and at night looks really nice), nor about airport operations. They actually just developed the ATC and AI traffic in v10.

Also I just found out that the buldings of the autogen are incomplete so you will see mostly suburbs in the current version. Medium-rise, etc are coming in the future. And still don't expect any landmarks as they are not looking into that.

Well I have to admit I got fooled into buying a Beta but hey at least I see that development of X-Plane is continuous.

**Doods** · 01-17-2012, 08:24 AM

Well i liked it enough to buy it lets hope it will get better......

**Propane** · 01-17-2012, 09:28 AM

I understand that X-Plane has a different background, which is why I went to try it out to see if it's approach to simming is different from FSX. The reason why I'm a bit amazed by the lack of environment details, is that a lot of people seem to consider it as a competitor to FSX while it is anything but that (again, in my opinion). And to be honest, I did a typerating in a relatively old full motion sim which showed more airport scenery detail!

**greggerm** · 01-17-2012, 03:47 PM

You should acknowledge where X-Plane comes from. X-Plane is more about the flying. The environment is bare because most commercial (non-entertainment) sims don't have highly developed sceneries. And X-Plane is coming from that perpective.

If Laminar Research is claiming that the lack of scenery detail has more to do with its 'scientific simulation of flight' instead of human and/or financial resource issues, they are being entirely disingenuous to the situation at hand. The fact that some professional training simulators lack some of these visual details is a convenient little scapegoat for the issue. Laminar most likely has had not enough time to work on these important components and not enough money to invest in the data to have it done automatically like its competitors have done in the past... not to mention all the non-airport related scenery issues which affect the product at this time.

New users of simulations are usually quite eager to post up shots to show off what they have... that hasn't happened with X-Plane 10. There's been a notable lack of screenshots coming from X-Plane 10 here on flightsim.com and on other general flight simulation sites, indicating to me that either very few people have bought the product yet, or very few people are happy with it.

Those that are working on it are doing so tirelessly and deserve credit, but they need help! It's too bad more human resources assets couldn't be brought to bear against the issue. There is enough scenery content in XP10 which remains incomplete and so little information about what might get finished and when, anyone who places any value on the out-the-window views should be cautioned about buying it at this point... especially if they like to fly in metropolitan areas.

-Greg

**jomni** · 01-17-2012, 07:46 PM

Actually X-Plane 10 scenery shines when you are flying IFR at altitudes above 10,000 ft. You really don't need to buy anything like GEX, UTX, ORBX anymore like we do in FS. And the night lighting is really spectacular.

I have mixed feelings about it now that I have finished a whole flight on an A320. A lot are still missing but it has potential.

**Doods** · 01-19-2012, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by JSkorna

People will tell you how great that plausible world around Toronto looks in January. I'm sure you're happy with all those FPS you are getting from XPX though.

Yes jim the frames are good. but look at the pictures and you can see why theres nothing in xplane to slow the frame rates down.....