Somewhat Disturbed on This in the "Fact Sheet"

[scottb613]

Personally - I had always suspected Flight was going to be subscription based to captialize on those monthly recurring fees... The profits would far exceed what they could get off a one time purchase... No facts to support it - it's just a hunch...

Regards,
Scott

[Ragtopjohnny]

It means exactly what it says.

This product is not FSXI, as they've been saying all along it's something new and different.

Nels, completely understandable that its something new and different.

However, I have to agree with Ricardo, that MORE scenery and other aircraft give the game life. Why not include more than one default aircraft out of the box?

I sadly think though that the "Flight Simulator" series as we know it is dead now. What ever happened to the people who are loyal to the franchise like those before FS98 and went all the way up to FSX? I think its sad that Microsoft is just in it for the gimme gimme gimme and money money money, and seem to think that who gives a hell about the loyal fans and customers over the years?

Yup, sad day that I'm NOT buying Flight, I'm sticking with FSX and my Sim Savvy, and all my other wonderful default and add-on aircraft I've come to know and love other the years.

John Thuot II

[djadlib]

I'm convinced now that I, and I think many others too, will stick with FSX for a long time to come.
Having invested over a 1000 Euro's in addons, not even mentioning the 100+ Gb of excellent freeware addons I use, I don't think that I'll pay extra to fly some toyplane over my own hometown, wich is not on Hawaii, when I can land my PMDG 747X in my home street in FSX. (Altough I will scratch my winglets when I do )

Also have I not yet seen any plane bigger than a single engine prop, and I almost excusively fly Heavy's into Intl. destinations.

Probably a good reason why they left the "Simulator" part out of the name. This will not be a comparison to what we fly now.

Harro

[raimondo2]

Lots of negative response about Flight !

not what simmers expected - !

[loki]

I sadly think though that the "Flight Simulator" series as we know it is dead now. What ever happened to the people who are loyal to the franchise like those before FS98 and went all the way up to FSX? I think its sad that Microsoft is just in it for the gimme gimme gimme and money money money, and seem to think that who gives a hell about the loyal fans and customers over the years?

What happened is that the dedicated simmers aren't a large enough market to support development of new sims. Microsoft has always been in it for the money, and has never pretended otherwise. They got to where they are by making decisions based on money, not what would be nice to have. The thousands of dedicated flight sim fans that frequent this and other forums are a fraction of the users who have bought the sim, and MS knows this.

[ricardo_NY1]

What happened is that the dedicated simmers aren't a large enough market to support development of new sims.

I would honestly like to know how things compare today to the days of FS5, FS98 in terms of how many people are actually buying a copy of the software. I honestly find it hard to believe that the core group of people who made it happen back then have disappeared, and logically, you would think more people have joined the wagon. Is piracy or something else to blame? How were dedicated simmers able to keep FS going back in the early 80's or even mid 90's when most people didn't even have a PC in the US? This subject is a topic of its own really.

Lastly, I still cannot swallow MS actually doing anything as bright as what outfits like Flytampa, Wilco, Dreamfleet, Captain Sim, etc have been doing for years. If MS does not release an SDK that those guys can work with, I'm going to liquid nitrogen and OC'ing something past 4ghz so I can jumpi onto the FSX wagon.

[loki]

The problem isn't that the core group is any smaller, and is probably much larger, but that it costs far more to develop a complicated program these days. High end games can easily cost millions to develop, which means one has to sell to as many users as possible.

[slowroll]

I only hope that the third party community continues to increase their development for X-plane. When I see the first LevelD/PMDG quality add-on I'll make the switch.

I have no ill will towards Microsoft; I hope they are successful. But, Flight doesn't seem to be what I'm looking for.

[joejam2]

Nah I'm sticking with FSX over XP10. The scenery and AI are on the saem level as cool in FS2000. Actually the real world buildings are actually in FS2000.

I'm not to surprised its Hawaii only after all the hush hush. They wanted to reel you in as far as they could before being forced to make the announcement. It would have been worse If we all found out by a beta tester that leaked the info. The A5 is an ugly little airplane. Atleast you get the Stearman after creating an account....

[torkermax]

Then don't fly in Hawaii. you will have other options, if you pay for them!. Simply put, Hawaii is free, the rest you pay for. Whos to say that addon developers ahvnt injected scenery, weather etc into the program and that you just pay for them as you use the, an option?