ILS landing help

[Flyguy9]

I watched YouTube videos but the problem is that they all use different methods for landing, some only use the frequency others used everything

If u can be so kind can u please tell me the distance to start ILS landing and step by step process on ILS landing, thanks

[NeilsEM1]

Lol..i just learned how today actually...first off, located your NAV 1 and dial in the ILS frequency, make sure its active, NOT IN STAND BY...A lot of the panels are different from aircraft to aircraft. I learned how to fly an ILS on a 737.

Once you dial that in and activate your NAV 1, depart the runway and a good place to start off to line up is at the IAF (initial approach fix) usually between 9-11 miles out on final. Once you're close to lining up, 2,000 feet should be a good altitude to intercept the G/S...just line up as much as you can azimuth-wise. Prior to you lining up, you can turn on your Flight Director to help you establish where you are on G/S and Localizer. Once you line up the needles correctly hit the APP button, or the Approach Hold...Once your locked in, its pretty much automatic to the ground...

if you dont want to manually fly to intercept the IAF, you can always use auto-pilot then use auto altitude and auto headings...thats what most of my friends do

[Flyguy9]

Can anyone tell me what i did wrong So I tried it I put in flight planner vor setting and instumwnt landing, whn I was 12 miles from klax runway 9L I set nav and course heading to 69, I changed speed to 195 knots and alt to 1800 to intercept glideslope, at first all was well the app button shut off and under glidescopre light flashed but seconds later the plane shot up 5000 ft and thus I quit after I was 25 nm away

[rockinrobin]

Was not aware that KLAX had a runway 9L...that may be your first problem. From the heading you're using, I'd guess you're actually trying to fly the ILS 7L approach?

[vgbaron]

First - if you are going to try an ILS approach - read the tutorials. Then get the approach chart for the airport you are coming to. All the info you need for a good approach is on the chart.

try this for starters - http://www.planesimulation.com/charts/app1.htm

Too many variables for a quick and dirty step by step setup - a lot depends on the airport, the weather, the minimums, the aircraft, etc.

Pick an approach. Get the chart - try flying the approach without the autopilot manually using the profile and frequencies on the chart - do this in clear weather. Get a feel for what the instruments will show when at certain points. then try it with the a/p - Then add weather - then try different a/c. It's a learning process - you do not just jump in a shoot ILS approaches - even in the sim.

Vic

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[henri5]

Practice landing with the default Cessna, it is very forgiving - landing a big airliner is much more difficult if you don't know what you are doing. The plane shooting up could be because you have your vertical speed on the autopilot set to a high positive value or that you have missed the approach and the plane is following a "missed approach" course. Another possibility is that the airport you are using has a defective glideslope - it doesn't happen often, but Seattle KSEA has one that makes your plane dive down and then shoot back up less than a mile from the threshold.

If you are straight and level at say 3000 ft and intercept the glideslope say 20 miles from the airport, the plane should intercept the glideslope and follow it down. Losing the glideslope can be caused by going too fast or too slow. You should have at least an approximate idea of the speeds and flap settings (they change as you get closer) for your airplane (speeds are much higher for big airliners than for Cessnas!).

What I usually do to practice is take off and set the autopilot to 3000 feet and the auto heading about parallel to the runway opposite to the direction of takeoff. I move a bit away fromthe runway line to have some leeway when I turn around. At about 30 miles from the airport, I use the heading bug to turn the aircraft around so that it will intercept the glideslope at a horizontal angle of about 30 degrees, and turn on the approach button (usually marked "app" on the autopilot). The plane will turn into the glideslope and turn off the auto-heading, but the vertical glideslope will only activate when your altitude matches that of the glideslope, and you have to intercept the glideslope from below, otherwise it will not "hook". At about 20 miles take out the wheels and give it one shot of flaps, and slow the plane down to approach speed (about 130 knots on a medium plane, less on a small one and much more on a big airliner- a real pilot would know the exact numbers for a specific plane). Keep the speed above the stall speed, but keep slowing down if you get above the glideslope. Some airports will land the plane on autopilot all the way, but some will plow you into the ground if yhou do not take control of the plane before touchdown. To do that, turn off the autopilot just before touchdown, full on the stick to flare just before you touch the ground and turn off the speed completely. Some aircraft will require you to briefly give the throttle a shot of speed to gain control, else the autospeed will stay on. You can usually avoid this by also turning off the flight director when you turn off the autopilot.

Henri

[kingnorris]

Here's my method, using either the Boeing's or a private jet.(Any aircraft with an autopilot and an approach button)

After I get my inital instruction on which runway I'm gonna land at, I go to "map" and find the frequency. I then dial this into the NAV 1 radio and activate the NAV1 button, and the three on the far right : "mkr, dme, adf".

Then I program the GPS. Select the runway by pressing "procedure" button, the last one on the right, activate approach, then select "activate vectors to final".

I then hear a series of beeps.

Once I hear ATC say the following :"You are 20 miles northwest, turn left heading ________.Descend and maintain ____________. Contact tower on _______" I press the APP (Approach) button. The plane will now turn and line itself up with the runway. As I get closer, the altitude button will turn itself off and the plane is now on ILS. All I do at this point is maintain my speed, and when I'm about 200 ft above the runway, I disengage autopilot and land by hand. 9 times out of 10, it's a pretty decent landing.

[vgbaron]

well, as a basic way of getting started, that works but what happens when your autopilot misses the glideslope or otherwise fails? The idea of getting the approach plate and learning to understand it is so you can take over and do the approach manually if there is a problem. FSX can be a great learning tool AND be fun at the same time. Just for kicks, set up the weathyer so you are IFR and try the landing without the autopilot.

Vic

[Flyguy9]

Thanks guys, my first question here and u guys helped a lot, I just landed my first plane today thanks