Help with navigating to WAYPOINT

[Mak]

Good afternoon everyone,

I flew a route earlier today and didn't exactly know how to obtain the waypoint as the MS FSX GPS doesn't recognize the waypoint. Flying into PABT, Bettles, AK, I was told by the Anchorage controller to fly to the HORAG waypoint, listed on the LOC/DME 01 approach chart here: http://flightaware.com/resources/air...DME+RWY+01/pdf

Since I was approaching from the East, at a heading of ~270 degrees, I took the southern arc route and tried to navigate to waypoint HORAG, 12.0mi out on the 124 radial from the Bettles LOC (108.70). I had this frequency dialed into my NAV 1 with NAV 1 selected.

How am I supposed to get to this point flying a heading of 270 using my instruments if my GPS isn't capable? I understand that if I come in from 124 or 304, I can easily get to HORAG by tracking the radial and checking my 12.0mi distance marker, but how do I get directly to the waypoint if I'm not flying those two headings?

Thanks.

[Amtran618]

Were you on vectors or flying an airway?

Unable is the answer to an atc clearance if you cant do it.

[ReggieF5421]

Below is the default FSX approach which the GPS uses to PABT for the LOC/DME Rwy 01 approach with D117L transition. This approach is based upon the April 2005 date of the FSX navigation database.

It includes the missed approach and the hold pattern.

The HORAG waypoint and the approach your chart shows was created after the FSX database date.

The D117L transition is close to the HORAG transition for the LOC/DME Rwy 01 approach, but used the 117 radial not the 124 radial.

I assume you are flying on VatSim or another on-line system. As noted above - inform the controller you are unable to use that waypoint.

I don't fly often on VatSim but my experience in the real world is that when cleared to a specific waypoint, that means a direct course from my present location to the waypoint. I would have altered my heading to point as close as I could figure to where I thought the 124 radial would be at 12 DME - maybe a couple miles farther out.

But I would also have looked up the GPS approaches in FSX and have checked them against the approach chart so that I knew the HORAG transition was very close to the D117L transition.

I could have punched the LOC Rwy 01 Approach with D117L transition into the default GPS and it would have flown me directly to the waypoint, and then flew the arc and lined me up on the localizer.

[Amtran618]

I wouldnt do this in real life, but for training purposes.. make the waypoint using the FMS, btt 124/12

[Mak]

Thank you for your replies. I'll respond next time as Unable due to equipment limitations and request vectors or a different waypoint. Thanks for the help.

[Amtran618]

an option is the 12 arc is an initial approach fix starting from 124 radial to the 315 radial, as long as youre inbound on one of those radials you can fly the arc an approach

[pacallen]

Be sure to have the appropriate equipment suffix in your flight plan as well. If you do not have a GPS or other suitable RNAV system, you cannot fly direct to intersections like HORAG. You could request BTT-12 DME arc and identify it w/ the 124 radial (assuming you have a VOR/DME), request vectors, or simply say unable because you're /A or /U or whatever.