Ifr landings

[Thaellar243]

Here is the best tutorial I have found. Read this page and then click on the video link at the top of the page. Uses the default 737. The video clearly shows the steps and also is downloadable with flightplan.

http://www.flightsimulatorguide.com/ilsapproach.html

Thaellar

[NikeHerk67]

Here is the best tutorial I have found. Read this page and then click on the video link at the top of the page. Uses the default 737. The video clearly shows the steps and also is downloadable with flightplan.

http://www.flightsimulatorguide.com/ilsapproach.html

Hi Thaellar,

I don't mean to rain on the guy's parade or be a stick in the mud, because the pilot of the tutorial video has done a decent job showing ILS procedures; however I believe he's being a bit too aggressive with his speeds.

1. With the A/T set at 250, when descending, it is too easy to exceed the max speed of 250 under 10K feet.
At =<5000' and while being vectored to an ILS approach by ATC, the IAS should be =<230kts.
2. A good habit to get into is that, after accessing the localizer, the HDG should be turned to RW heading as well.
(It makes it easier to maintain RW heading in case ATC orders a Go Around)
Another option might be to set the HDG to the prescribed, procedural missed approach heading, if you happen to have access to the carts. (For PACV it's a left turn to 201 degrees and a climb out to 4600', which could also be preset into the ALT AFTER the GS was accessed.
Also, if ATC orders a right or left turn shortly after Go Around, it's less distance to set the HDG one way or the other.
It also doesn't
3. Once the LOC and GS have been accessed, the IAS of the 737 should be more like 160 until 5nm out when IAS should slowly be reduced to 140 and landed at or less around 130 to 135kts.
The video doesn't show the amount of fuel so we can't tell how heavy the aircraft was; however VREF for this aircraft should not be 160knts. Another good habit is to fly with only enough fuel for the planned flight, plus allowance for a possible holding pattern, and to travel to and land at an alternate airport.
4. Once the A/T is disengaged, and using the hand throttle, also a good habit is to set the A/T speed to about 220 for a nice smooth G/A recovery using the A/P after cleaning up the gear and flaps.


I'm not a 737 pilot in the real world, but have read and learned from their posts in the past.

BTW the Vref speeds on the kneeboard reference are not correct for the 737-800 in FSX.
For one thing, you don't land faster with flaps set at 40deg. than you do with them set at 30deg.

From a Boeing manual:

Depending on weight:
140 klbs (63 ton) Flaps 30, 146 kt Vref
120 (54 ton)....................135 kt
100 (45 ton)....................123 kt

[ramjett]

I reached the point where I had buried my nose or went skidding off the end of the runway too often and I decided to learn how real pilots land these things time after time.

I checked out the FSX learning center and learned to read instruments and find my way to airports, but VOR, IFR, VFR, enter left traffic...why did I need all of that for fun flying? I only wanted to learn how to use autopilot so I could fly and land big jets.

As I was trying to find out what the ATC instructions meant, I went to youtube and found helpful videos that showed how to use A/P ( autopilot ) and flight director in FS and how to use the GPS to plan and file an IFR flightplan. It took some effort but became easier with practice and it felt more like the real thing. Using A/P and an IFR flightplan I was able to bringing in an A380 and get it stopped in time to make the exit. I now expect to be able to land well most of the time.

Using ATC and A/P I have become more familiar with how a heavy jet loses altitude, uses flaps and pitch, lines up a runway and gets stopped in time. It helps me plan better moves when I hand fly a Hornet or a Cessna and its amazing how much you can control even the huge planes. I want to add my encouragement to that of other forum members and say try it and you'll see, it has made FS even better for me. Good luck and good flights.

ramjett

[muppet1]

Here is the best tutorial I have found. Read this page and then click on the video link at the top of the page. Uses the default 737. The video clearly shows the steps and also is downloadable with flightplan.

http://www.flightsimulatorguide.com/ilsapproach.html

Thaellar

Thanks for posting this, made things alot clearer for me and have learnt 2 things, one i was far too fast and the 2nd not enough flaps.

I have managed to land once well and twice oh balls sort off.

Will get the hang of it with practice.

[Tim_A]

Will get the hang of it with practice.

Just keep at it - it'll click eventually.

[skullxbones]

Right im a bit of a newbie and cant land 747's to save my life, How do you set it up so you can line up with the runway you need. I cant even seem to get it right using the approach hold switch.

Any guides or help you might give would be a great help to me as i want to land properly at some point and not where i shouldnt be.

Thanks.

It's all about real estate, you need lots more of it than in GA aircraft. It might be more helpful at first to ride the ILS down to about 500 so you can concentrate on just controlling the speed of the plane. Another difference is you need drive the 747 right down onto the runway, a soft crash landing. You want to get them down and braking quickly, not floating over half the runway. After you disconnect the autopilot, continue the glide slope till about 30-50 above the runway before you flare. Helps here to have payware that will count down the feet for you. Once you are more comfortable with it, you can increase the height you disconnect the autopilot.