Messed up ILS?

[Alexander2012]

I attemped my first real not kidding around ILS approach using runway 27 at Kansas City International. The approach (ATC) gave me a heading of 255 which put me off of the course to the glideslope. So i had to correct it but i still landed. I just have to work on my glide slope. Is the ATC supposed to do that? For some reason this runway didn't have a outermarker just a middle and inner marker. How do you fly ILS under VFR rules, can you? Is there anyway to get the runway you want to ILS on in the flight planner?
Thanks,

From an ILS newbie!

[fsxflyerofa380]

I don't know about the things such as VORS, and VFT rules, so lets keep it simple.

First fly an IFR, to an airport. On the way, keep in touch with ATC for instructions. Then when it says you are cleared for ILS, make sure you have set the ILS on the NAV1 radio, and the approach is on, on the AP, and maybe FD, if you don't want to use auth pilot.

By the point you are cleared, you follow the glidescope on the PFD, or the FD, and follow it to the ground. By 100 feet or so, I think it is VFR.

When ATC directed you to 255, depends wear you are to intercept the glide scope, check on you GPS, for the green lives extending from you runway, and ATC might or should direct you away to the end or close to the GS/ILS.

So, follow the approach given by ATC. When you are cleared for ILS approach, make sure you have the ILS Freq. set on the NAV1 radio. Then make sure the Approach switch is set on the AP, and use the FD, on the PFD, to follow the glide scope when you are cleared, to follow the GS down to the runway.

Hope this might help.

[barty]

I attemped my first real not kidding around ILS approach using runway 27 at Kansas City International. The approach (ATC) gave me a heading of 255 which put me off of the course to the glideslope. So i had to correct it but i still landed. I just have to work on my glide slope. Is the ATC supposed to do that? For some reason this runway didn't have a outermarker just a middle and inner marker. How do you fly ILS under VFR rules, can you? Is there anyway to get the runway you want to ILS on in the flight planner?
Thanks,

From an ILS newbie!

ATC, FS or real world, will give you a vector to intercept the localizer course. So you will have to make a turn to line up with the final approach course.

Not all ILS approaches use marker beacons. Most new ILS systems usually do not include outer and middle markers, as the FAA no longer requires them to establish an ILS if radar or DME is available to determine the final approach fix. If the approach is certified for category II and III operations, it will generally have an inner marker when the approach is first established.

When flying on a VFR plan in FSX, there is no way to request any type of instrument approach. RW, it is just a matter of flying the approach (non-towered airport) or making the proper request to ATC as appropriate.

[Tim_A]

You can't make an ILS approach VFR (the "I" in ILS - "Instrument" is a big clue). But if you just happen to have the ILS receiver switched on, and tuned to the appropriate frequency when you make your long straight-in visual approach, who's to know?....

Here in the UK, where each instrument approach is charged for (typically £20 for a light single), it's amazing how many times the ILS "just happens" to be tuned in on a visual approach!

[barty]

You can't make an ILS approach VFR (the "I" in ILS - "Instrument" is a big clue). But if you just happen to have the ILS receiver switched on, and tuned to the appropriate frequency when you make your long straight-in visual approach, who's to know?....

Here in the UK, where each instrument approach is charged for (typically £20 for a light single), it's amazing how many times the ILS "just happens" to be tuned in on a visual approach!

I hear that. That's why user fees are being fought tooth and nail here. Since everyone who flies must be "rich" I'm sure our politicians will have no problems assessing a similarly hefty fee for using ATC services. I wonder if I could get a discount since I'm about to be a controller myself?

Anyway, at towered airports, it is typically a good idea to coordinate with the surrounding approach control (mandatory, of course, if you're flying into class C...you don't even bother doing practice approaches into a class B airport) before starting a practice approach. While it is not mandatory if you are VFR (you can just tell the tower you're on a long, straight in final) it usually helps keep you from getting broken off the approach too early if there are some other aircraft inbound. Anyway, even if it is conducted in VFR, it is still considered to be a logable approach for currency requirements, provided that you are using some kind of view limiting device, ie., hood.

[n4gix]

You can't make an ILS approach VFR (the "I" in ILS - "Instrument" is a big clue). But if you just happen to have the ILS receiver switched on, and tuned to the appropriate frequency when you make your long straight-in visual approach, who's to know?....

At KGYY (Gary/Chicago International) everyone must use that precise phraseology if landing VFR, or they will be instructed to contact Chicago Control for permission...

"Gary tower, November Four Golf XRay with you runway three zero for a long, straight in approach with information Mike."