Are you encouraged not to play FS2002? (for the teens)

[benjie]

This was just sent to me. He says he is not ashamed to put it up so, here it is. This is not my work, I think its actually funny that he cant just leave it alone. boy, cant anyone learn. :-lol

Hi,
Its nice to say..hey, I love you all, no discrimination. I am nice guy. How cute. Mr. Nice Guy.
I discriminate teens in FS2002.
Not in sports...or in sex. But I regard FS2002, and the other versions, as a slightlier more serious game than say...SWAT, or Anti-Terror Squad, or all those first person games with a choice of killing weapons that my 15 year old nephew enjoys so much. Not to mention FIFA or Soccer games or any games with little figures running around. Arcade shoot them up or the sort of the Sonic II CD consoles are what teens like best.

When I took my PPL back in 1977 there were some very expensive simulators where you could sit and practice for your test, navigation with chart plotting, instruments and gauges in a big panel that worked with electric power. It was a serious device for practicing flying. Not a toy.

Today, 25 years later we have something like FS2002, that can be used as a toy or to simulate some basics of flying, at all levels. Anyone can play, but unlike all the other games, there is no mission in this one, no scores, no winner, no shooting, simply because its just a simulation of a professional activity in real life.

I like toys. Someone once said that the only difference between adults and kids is the price of their respective toys.
But usually when you go into a computer game store, wherever you look its only teen and kids game. The store is packed with colorful games for them. They come by the hundreds. We have no chance or respect in computer game shop or section. Everything is done and thought for the teens. Very very few games are for grown ups.

FS2002 can be considered one of those. And I would like to share views, help, opinions etc. in a forum with other people, hence...the FS2002 forum. I want the contacts and realism of expectations to be as real as it gets. That's why it irritates me when I find those obvious teenagers who run into the game with little patience and come up with their arcade ideas. Its not a sin or a rude attitude to expect to have just one game, one little corner, where you can discuss things at a higher level, and where developpers are also extremely good professionals well in their 30's or 40's.

The stars and galaxies are fascinating. Teenagers have the Star Wars series or they can go to a planetarium and learn the basics of our universe. But imagine a Forum with guys like Stephen Hawking and other phisics that wish to discuss interesting matters and the same forum is constantly flooded by teenagers having their say...

Come on... there is standard for everything. Teenagers should be encouraged to play FS2002. I try to get my son and nephews into it, in vain I must say. But there is no harm to let them know that they should shut up and learn, read more and talk less, upload less splash screens and search more the archives...its a game, but not in the same level as the ones they are used to. The fun of the game is make it as real as it gets, and simulate the seriousness of flying, the discipline and attitude is part of the game as well.

So teenagers...I discriminate you...and I am not ashamed about it.

Luis Kmentt Jr.






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[shwncplnd]

That's bound to ruffle a few feathers.

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[benjie]

Ruffled mine just a tad. ;-)

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[Gaz]

This may be a bad reply, but arn't there hundreds of teens that play fs2002?
i know for sure there are alot in these forums, i too am only 15, but i've been flight simming since i found out what a plane was! :-lol but i still agree with you, a friend was over at my house a while back and i showed him fs2002, the first thing he asked me is "how do you fire?" :-roll
i explained to him the concept of the simulator and he just sort of looked at me and then... :-sleepy, typical :)
But yeah i think more teens should be buying Flightsims instead of those shooters etc they seem to love so much!

Sorry bout the way i've written this, im not much good at putting thoughts into words :D



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[benjie]

I understand Gaz. I guess what this guy was trying to say is that we should be spending time learning it than ENJOYING it. Basically thats what he said.



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[rservice]

Well, I guess this game or hobby appeals to the more mature individual: I'm not implying that all teenagers are immature, but it does require much more study and practice and a willingness to learn from others. I think with all the input we get from developers world wide, it is a game which receives a new challenge almost evey day.

Unlike the shoot-em- ups which give instant gratification but a short enjoyment span, this hobby is constantly full of surprises.

Even when you are away from this game, it makes you think about some aircraft or flying technique that you have'nt quite mastered and it relates many times to the sort of learning challenge we face in real life.

Unfortunately, today most people either do not take the time or make the time to just be quiet and think, with no distractions like cell phones, music, TV or whatever.

[Arne]

I'm 16, and I could'nt agree more with you. However I think the best would be a combonation of the tings you say, Enjoying to learn about FS and real flying.
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[benjie]

Exactly, and if you know what ya doing, then why cant we create splash screens and all that cool stuff? I dont know why he doesnt want us to do it. One tracked mind i guess :-)


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[jetBlue_A320]

Hell, I'm 15, I could care less about what someone thinks about me playing FS. Im interested in the real thing, I just need some funding to actually fly. I learn and enjoy, I learn something almost everyday. If some teens play shooters and arcade games, it means #####. I belive he is giving his sterotypical view of an american teenager, Doing anything but learning. I read, at a college level. According to my guidence counselor I am in the top 4% of teens age 13-17 with my vocabulary and I am in the top 7% of teens age 13-17 in my reading skills. If he wants to sterotype us as kids who only like arcade games let him, but we can sterotype the older people as old geezers who belive we should act the way they acted back when they were our age. I choose not to. Once again this really means jack to me, I just wanted to voice my opinion.

Sorry to all offended.

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[dcmiller]

I am glad you posted this. I am in my mid-forties, now. And I can tell you that a lot of us in our midlife are nothing more teenagers with thirty years of regrets piled on top. It is part of growing older to learn to admire and respect youth, to hold on to the qualities that make it so much fun to be young without begrudging adult life. (Midlife is a lot of fun, too, if you do it right and stop taking things too seriously.)

When I first read this thread I thought the author was writing satire (not very good satire, but an attempt, none-the-less.) I didn't take it seriously.

So here is my old person advice to my younger colleagues in the FS world: Have fun. Enjoy what is challenging. Ignore Old Farts. Keep in touch with the rest of us.

Four weeks ago I went to our local FBO to check out flying lessons. Turns out my instructor was to be a young man who started flying in his teens. He wasn't over 22 years old. Man, was I jealous! Flying is not about age and teenagers have a lot to offer.

There is a perception that teenagers lack the maturity to be involved in a serious discussion on the boards. But immaturity has little to do with age! Just check out the current threads on this particular board and you will find ample evidence of folks who need to grow up that should have done so twenty years ago and ample words from teenagers that prove they are very capable of reasonable conversation. Immaturity is not an age thing.

I discriminate against Old Farts! (So be careful not to become one when you are just 16!)

Derrick