http://www.flightsim.com/dcforum/Use...4f0ee4caa7.jpg

Looks like that rudder is maxed out! Then I read the caption to this picture:

"The prototype Boeing 307, NX 19901 flying with two propellers feathered on the right wing. This Stratoliner first flew on December 31, 1938 and crashed on March 18, 1939. Representatives of KLM Royal Dutch Airlines were aboard for a demonstration flight. The KLM pilot asked the Boeing pilot to shut down two engines on one side of the airplane. The pilot lost control, and the airplane entered an unrecoverable spin. Ten people aboard were killed in the crash. The vertical stabilizer on the Stratoliner was enlarged to provide additional rudder control authority. The larger stabilizer that had been designed for the Stratoliner was incorporated in the design of the B-17E Flying Fortress."

Helluva way to learn about aircraft design in the golden days! Hopefully, Boeing will get that 307-B back up in the air after ditching in a Seattle's Elliot Bay last week.. what a video that was to watch.:-eek