The Sad Grand Canyon - Can something be done!

**fsfilmworks** · 07-29-2007, 08:59 PM

>I asked and now know you're talking rubbish. :)

Really bro, quit trying to lie and make yourself look like a know it all...

http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?...2711&mode=full

take a look at the following quote...

To turn my prototype (that currently works with FS2004 and FSX) into a reliable and legal product usable by everyone a few extra steps are required:

* One of Google, MSN Virtual Earth or NASA would have to agree to provide terrain tiles to end users ("the average flightsimming joe"), which may require some extra licensing deals with whoever provides their high resolution satellite data. Alternatively a large FS addon developer would have to step in and license satellite data and install a server infrastructure on their own. This might turn out to be a major cash expense which probably requires a by paid-for access on a subscription basis.

Christian

Even in the documentation he is very specific about use of the software could consitute the EULA and TOS for the various services...

So dude quit claiming you emailed the author, you haven't. I'm still looking for the message that has the cease and desist order... It may have been edited out of posts due to legal issues...

Okay, looked further into the original posts and this is what was stated...

"Now I understand that the russian dude got served a nastygram by Google because no-one else is allowed to interface with the Google Earth imagery with a client other than the official Google Earth software. It is simply a licensing restriction imposed by the providers of the sattelite imagery. Bummer!"

"So I am going to write different backend modules for my Samba based tileserver - for example USGS data or maybe I can even switch to Google Maps (not Earth). I can't keep using Google Earth, although it was fun while it lasted "

The cease and desist for samba/gaia of which tileproxy has some base code (from what i understand) can be found here...

http://lwn.net/Articles/211153/

**ram1220** · 07-30-2007, 02:09 AM

I couldn't agree more. In this regard FSX is clearly a step down from FS9. Heck it's worse than FS2002 and FS2000 for that matter. I got FSX for free from a buddy that works at MS and it's still in the box with the shrink wrap still on it. Every day I come here looking for an excuse to install it. But all I find are reasons not to. I'm still enjoying FS9 and will for a long time to come. The people that think FSX is a step up are in denial. MS really should be ashamed of FSX.

**fsfilmworks** · 07-30-2007, 02:31 AM

> I couldn't agree more. In this regard FSX is clearly a step
>down from FS9. Heck it's worse than FS2002 and FS2000 for that
>matter. I got FSX for free from a buddy that works at MS and
>it's still in the box with the shrink wrap still on it. Every
>day I come here looking for an excuse to install it. But all I
>find are reasons not to. I'm still enjoying FS9 and will for a
>long time to come. The people that think FSX is a step up are
>in denial. MS really should be ashamed of FSX.

hmm, let me see...

FSX 7cm per pixel / FS2004 4.75m per pixel

FSX 1m DEM possible (I have products in development)/ FS2004 9/19m DEM

FSX moving vehicles on roads / FS2004 none

FSX GPS accurate roads and coastlines / FS2004 nowhere near accurate, few roads which are way out of place, coastlines all out of place, doesn't match with DEM data

FSX better flight dynamics, much more realistic / FS2004 still feels wrong, aircraft don't behave as expected

FSX Water Reflections, Cloud Reflections / FS2004 None!

FSX Water 2.0 Effects / FS2004 water is a joke

so yeah I'm in denial that FSX is better...

**baddadnv** · 07-30-2007, 03:54 AM

> I couldn't agree more. In this regard FSX is clearly a step
>down from FS9.

HOW WOULD YOU KNOW?

Heck it's worse than FS2002 and FS2000 for that
>matter.

AGAIN, HOW WOULD YOU KNOW?

I got FSX for free from a buddy that works at MS and
>it's still in the box with the shrink wrap still on it.

SEE THERE YOU GO. ...... YOU'VE NEVER EVEN USED FSX !!!! You do realize how YOUR credibility and expertise on the subject, just dropped to ZERO, don't you? ...... Ridiculous....... By YOUR OWN ADMISSION, you haven't even paid, not a penny for the program, Yet You continually try to degrade it ????????

>day I come here looking for an excuse to install it. But all I
>find are reasons not to. I'm still enjoying FS9 and will for a
>long time to come. The people that think FSX is a step up are
>in denial. MS really should be ashamed of FSX.

Ridiculous !

ROFLMAO, Randy Burton

**gjcame** · 07-30-2007, 04:32 AM

To OTTO and all of the above

Just for your interest I have the FS9 Photorealistic Scenery for The Grand Canyon and have alaised it to FSX.

The attached screen shots for your interest. I have an older rig as well so better results should be had with all your new beaut stuff.

Sure there are some areas with a bit of conflict and miss-match but excellent results to tide one over until FSX specific scenery is available.

The scenery is available from simmarket as indicated in an earlier post

Regards

Graeme :7
attached:
Grand Canyon 1.jpg
Grand Canyon 2.jpg

**cat** · 07-30-2007, 05:25 AM

Can you save those Tileproxy downloads on your computer
or is this not possible?
Peter Sydney Australia

**metro752** · 07-30-2007, 10:10 AM

Randy, when we have the ability to fire radar and heat seeking missles, and air to air machine guns, I will install FSX. This is possible from what I have read, correct, or are FSX users doomed to the limited flour sack bombing runs? Air Combat would make FSX extremely valuable.