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    Has anyone else noticed how it is no longer possible to 'raise the seat' in the cockpit view? Unlike any other FS version before it, FSX raises and lowers BOTH the seat and the panel, with Shift-Enter and Shift-Backspace respectively, in such a way that the pilot view angle over the panel does not change at all. It is nearly impossible to taxi or to fly the Kingair VFR using the cockpit view with the top of the panel where it is, yet it is even more unrealistic to 'W' the panel out of the way. The IFR panel in the Kingair is ridiculous - it is impossible to make a transition from IFR to visual to land because you cannot see the runway at all. Some other aircraft have the problem too, if less severely.

    I realize that Microsoft is pushing VCs with FSX, but this is nuts!

    Does anyone know a way to change the pilot's cockpit view angle in such a way that the panel does not block the forward view?

    NC

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    Yeah we all got used to the last couple releases, you have to keep some things the same!!!!!!

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    There are commands for the 2D cockpit, but I don't recall them, offhand. They're in the kneeboard, and you can ALWAYS find what commands are assigned to in Options/Settings/Controls. Many commands are available that are unassigned, and some assignments are different from previous versions.

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    Hi Norm,

    'scuse me for just copying my reply to a previous poster asking the same question yesterday...

    Control+Q is the adjustment that "tilts" the view downward so you can see better. This is a PAN type adjustment; HOLD the keys til it moves to where you want it. Shift+Control+Q to raise.

    Several of the FSX aircraft have a special low-profile panel for Visual landing - The BARON and (I think) the King Air. Press W to cycle through those alternates.

    You can also adjust the view using this technique from previous versions:

    Just below the initial list of panel windows in the panel.cfg, add the line

    [VIEWS]
    VIEW_FORWARD_DIR=5.0, 0.0, 0.0 // adjust parameter 1 as needed (degrees)

    and this will permanently tilt the view down by 5 degrees. Customize for each AC you want to modify.

    Hope this helps

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    You can probably do it from the 2D panel. To get to the 2D panel, bring up the panel view and press the A key until you get to the 2D panel. You can cycle through all the different views by using the A key.

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    I'm not sure why this doesnt work for you, in the vc view Shift-Enter and Shift-Backspace raises and lowers the view. You can either see more of the panel or just the very top. Maybe I'm not reading your post very well. When youre all lined up on final and dont need the panel that much anymore just hit shift and enter and the panel will drop down giving you a bigger out the window view.

    Moe

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    You are right - it work in VC. But thats it.
    It does not work in 2D cockpit.

    I have not tried the CNTR+Q yet, but I will.

    brgds Dante

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    IMO this is another thing MS broke that did not need fixing. The keyboard commands or other assignments you might make seem to work in the side views, but not straight ahead, or they revert to default when you look ahead. Or in some aircraft it sort of works and in other it doesn't. I have had mixed results, and just tried the DC-3 where it did not work at all straight ahead. I think I had the same results yesterday with the C-208, which seemed like an IFR panel. Maybe this is why MS felt compelled to add the semi-transparent panel option. Hell-oh-oh....

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    Default RE: pilot view angle in the cockpit

    I have the same problem. Raising/lowering the seat simply does not work in the 2D cockpit forward view. It works in the side views, which is not much help, but does not allow you to change your viewing height over the panel to see the runway.

    I tried reassigning the keys with no luck. Works fine in VC.

    Another issue I noticed is that you can only use the up/down/left/right hat switch positions to changes external views, whereas before the diagonal hat positions (up/right, down/left, etc.) were also functional allowing you to smoothly pan around the aircraft.

    Trying to assign Pan Up/Right to the hat switch does not work.

    Anybody have a fix for the 2D cockpit seat height adjustment (simply tilting the view downward is not the same as raising your view over the panel to keep the correct perspective)?

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    the CTL+ Q and SHIFT+CTL+Q doesnt work also
    Walouigi

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