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    Default MOST impressive - just a few minor issues

    I've just spent an hour hand-flying the 727-100 in the pattern... what a sweet-handling aircraft - "youse guys" done good!

    I'm a big fan of ultra-complex sims, and do love the older technology. My other favorite aircraft is the RFP 747-200.

    On my first flight, I carefully worked my way through tutorial #1, and was extremely impressed by the attention to detail in the systems. I did find a few minor issues. Some may be bugs, some mistakes on my part, but I thought I'd make a list for your perusal.

    Per pages in the QRH:

    3-2 APU Startup

    When selecting the APU fire switch to "test" no bell.

    3-3 Check oxygen on FE upper panel

    Both cockpit and PAX oxygen gauges read zero

    When opening main entrance door with SHIFT-E, also see indicator lights for the Airstair on the FE annunciator panel, even though the Airstair is not down in external view.

    3-6 Test antiskid

    The antiskid test lights (or the switch) appear to be reversed. When moving the switch to INBRD position the OUTBRD lights illuminate, and vice-versa.

    3-8 Flight Director Test

    When I get to the section where the FD control switch is placed in MAN G/S position, the G/S and VOR/LOC lights illuminate yellow. The QRH says they should be green. When swinging the course selector left and right of the lubber line, the FD command bars do indeed follow, but to get them to level requires setting the course pointer about 10 degrees left of the lubber line, rather than right on it. The HDG test of the bars does work OK, with the command bars leveling when the HDG bug is exactly on the lubber line.

    3-12 Brakes and pressures

    Both pneumatic and hydraulic brake pressure gauges on the F/O panel read zero. never see hydraulic pressure on this particular gauge, either before or after engine start, even with good hydraulic pressure on both the A and B systems on the FE panel gauges.

    3-13 Engine start

    I do not seem to be able to get more than 10 PSI on the duct pressure gauge, with the APU supplying bleed air, even with both packs off. Once the engines start, duct pressure goes up to 30+

    When I place any engine start switch to GRD, I hear the F/O voice say "Number (x) to ground" then "oil pressure rising", as the QRH indicates, but he never says "19 percent" when N2 reaches that point. When I open the fuel valve on the pedestal the engine lights off, he then says "N1" followed immediately by "EGT"

    (I'm using the default F/O voice #3 - haven't tried the others)

    None of these items are show-stoppers. All in all the 727 is a magnificent piece of work. Congrats to all who were involved in her design!

    Jim Barrett





  2. Default RE: MOST impressive - just a few minor issues

    I'm pretty sure those are bugs, as I have experienced them as well. Like you said, not show stoppers.

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    Default RE: MOST impressive - just a few minor issues

    Hi Jim,

    3-2 APU Startup

    Try this thread:
    http://www.flightsim.com/dcforum/DCForumID32/24.html

    3-6 Test antiskid

    See page 10-4 of the manual - the simulated sequence is correct :)

    3-8 Flight Director Test

    The problem with the vor mode is most likely that no VOR is tuned to NAV 1 or the position of the aircraft is off the course selected for the tuned VOR the moment it is tested. That's why you get the 10° offset.
    I hope this is understandable ?

    Need to check for the other issues ...

    Best Regards,
    Ingo Voigt
    DF 727 and F1 ATR Documentation

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    Default RE: MOST impressive - just a few minor issues

    I noticed one very minor issue

    When rolling the course button with my mouse wheel, I only get click sounds going the one way, no sounds the other.

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    Default RE: MOST impressive - just a few minor issues

    Dial sounds work both ways here:)

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    Default RE: MOST impressive - just a few minor issues

    Hi David,

    I get sounds either way too.
    Maybe listen closely when decreasing the course next time - the sound is rather quiet ...

    Best Regards,
    Ingo Voigt
    DF 727 and F1 ATR Documentation

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    Default RE: MOST impressive - just a few minor issues

    Okay,

    had another try now ...
    3-3 Check oxygen on FE upper panel
    Same issue here, reported on the beta forum.

    3-12 Brakes and pressures
    Hydraulic pressure was sensed here, sure the hydraulic system was set up properly (system A and B) ?
    Pneumatic Pressure read 0 though ...

    3-13 Engine start
    Same here with DUCT pressure, was fine after starting the engines ...

    Regarding the N2, 19 percent announcement - I heard it, maybe you opened the fuel cutoff switches too early ?
    Best Regards,
    Ingo Voigt
    DF 727 and F1 ATR Documentation

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    The duct pressure is fine after starting engines, but on my system with the APU bleed on and going through the checklists I only get 10 or 15 psi in the duct pressure.

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    Default RE: MOST impressive - just a few minor issues

    I'll listen more closely this time, again it's pretty much a non issue anyways lol.

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