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"egsjr1956" posted "Have you completed tutorial #1. The answer is on page 53." No. I came here from a Google search, 2 years after these posts above, but unfortunately, LNAV and VNAV still refuse to arm as part of the poorly documented 737ng PRE-TAKEOFF setup procedures. No help, people, thanks all the same.

OMG - How is such a thing even POSSIBLE in the developed world? I'm aghast and mystified.

I am fully cognizant that this discussion is old, and inactive now. I'm only here because I was searching, and this page came up. I disagree with the above, for several reasons. Look at this image: Does it look more like one of the sim VC panels, or more like a GA 2D sim panel? Obviously, it looks more like the 2D panels being discussed. And guess what? It's a picture of the panel in the real Piper Comanche 260B I owned. What does that tell us? What it tells me is that 2D sim panels are more realistic than the VC panels, and my speculation is that the simmers who insist that VC panels are more realistic have never sat inside a real cockpit. IMO, VC panels are just eye-candy, nothing more. The information on the instruments on VC panels is so small as to be unreadable and useless for anything but looking pretty. If one wants to be just a passenger, along for the ride, VC panels are OK, but if one wants to be able to actually USE the instruments to get information to fly the airplane, a VC panel doesn't do that. Saying "no one uses 2D panels" is simply false. There are obviously some simmers who do, and those would be the ones who want the information 2D panels provide, and VC panels don't. As a licensed pilot, I happen to be in the former group; I want to be able to fly by the gauges, and do it right. I agree with the others here who say they aren't interested in even buying aircraft that have only VC panels - they're a waste of time and money. Developers who try to cut corners by eliminating 2D panels are clearly targeting gamers, not pilots. So be it - it's their call, but they won't get my money. Oh, and almost forgot - the quote above that "many gauges/effects (sounds, prop, other animations) don't work using a 2D panel" is pure rubbish. I usually fly the Mooney Bravo in p3dv4 since it's the only plane provided with a 2D panel, afaik. And every single one of those listed items works flawlessly - there's nothing that "doesn't work".