• Review: Just Flight - Canberra PR9

    Canberra PR9

    Publisher: Just Flight

    Review Author:
    Bill Stack

    Suggested Price:
    $44.99

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    Canberra PR9 by Just Flight

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    Canberra PR9 was a first generation, light, high-altitude jet bomber designed and built by English Electric from the late 1940s through the 1950s. It was one of those few venerable early aircraft -- like the Douglas DC-3 -- that flew multiple purposes for decades beyond its design lifespan, eventually being retired by the Royal Air Force in 2006. In addition to conventional explosive bombing missions, it was deployed as a nuclear strike bomber, and it was used for photographic and electronic reconnaissance. It served in numerous wars and conflicts such as Vietnam, Suez Canal (1956), and Indo-Pakistan (1971).

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    Being a combat aircraft, the Canberra PR9 is unlike any stock aircraft in MSFS, but there are some similarities. At 66 feet (20 meters) long and with its 64-foot (20-meter) wingspan, it slightly larger than the Learjet 45. At 55,000 pounds (24,948 kilograms) maximum gross take-off weight, it is more than twice the weight of the Learjet 45. Its speeds are similar to subsonic jet aircraft, but its maximum altitude is almost 50 percent higher than the Learjet 45's service ceiling. Several firsts and records were set by the Canberra such as the first non-stop unrefueled transatlantic crossing by a jet in 1951 and the world altitude record of 70,133 feet (21,391 meters) in 1957.

    English Electric Canberra
    Specifications Data
    Occupants 3
    Empty Weight 21,650 LB
    9,820 KG
    Max Gross Weight 55,000 LB
    24,948 KG
    Useful Load 33,350 LB
    15,128 KG
    Fuel Capacity 3,311 USG
    12,533 L
    Maximum Speed 0.88 mach
    993 KPH
    Ceiling 1 48,000 FT
    15,000 M
    Range NA NM
    NA KM
    Length 66 FT
    20 M
    Wing Span 64 FT
    20 M
    Power 7,400 LB x 2
    Notes: 1. Reached 70,133 FT (21,391 M) in 1957
    Source: Wikipedia

    9 Comments
    1. madPILOT's Avatar
      madPILOT -
      You forgot to write down this plane is not Multiplayer suitable.

      a good test pilot is always in training
      Thomas
    1. W33's Avatar
      W33 -
      Very grateful for the review.

      Thank you taking the time to express your thoughts on a legendary aircraft; most insightful!
    1. davestewart's Avatar
      davestewart -
      1950's ERA British aicraft were noted for cockpits like working inside a mine shaft. The Canberra was nimble for it's time and the attainable height is still classified, I have heard many times that it once had a U-2 show up well below, in it's photo's of a target area that both units were after.
      Reliable solid and a death trap at low altitude with an engine out. We lost a crew a RAF Wyton when the pilot tried to do a single engine failure exercise at low altitude, sure enough it took ages for the engine to spool up, and they ran out of luck, Cockpit looks as dark and incomprehensible as when I first stuck my head into one
    1. oompah's Avatar
      oompah -
      RAF aircraft of this era used a standard autopilot, in this case the Mk10 made by Smiths Industries. the same autopilot was used in all three V bombers as well as the Brittannia to name but a few.

      Thabks for the review.
    1. Joob's Avatar
      Joob -
      Quote Originally Posted by madPILOT View Post
      You forgot to write down this plane is not Multiplayer suitable.

      a good test pilot is always in training
      Thomas

      Can you highlight the issues behind your statement?

      Having flown a fair few hours with this aircraft in MP my colleagues and I have not witnessed any problems, peer to peer connection etc.
    1. madPILOT's Avatar
      madPILOT -
      Quote Originally Posted by Joob View Post
      Can you highlight the issues behind your statement?

      Having flown a fair few hours with this aircraft in MP my colleagues and I have not witnessed any problems, peer to peer connection etc.
      Yes sir want you the e-mail corresponden between me and Just flight. Me and some outer virtual pilot test it under Multiplayer and don't work.

      A peer to peer ins not Multiplayer, know you what multiplayer is.

      Her a link http://www.fsopen.co.uk/info/sessions/

      But you can read it also under Just Flight info after e-mail between me and Just Flight read her http://www.justflight.com/product/canberra-pr9-download


      System Requirements:

      Flight Simulator X (Acceleration, Gold or SP2 required) or Prepar3D / Prepar3D v2
      2.0GHz or any Dual Core
      2.0GB RAM
      512MB graphics card
      Windows 8, 7, Vista or XP (32-bit or 64-bit)
      960MB hard drive space

      Note: This product is not compatible with FSX multiplayer mode.
    1. flightman's Avatar
      flightman -
      The review is correct that Just Flight don't properly identify what variant each livery represents. Most are for MH134 (this is the aircraft serial number). One is for MH131, another aircraft in the same squadron. The external model represents MH134 as it was when it left service (and as it is now). The aircraft had been modified over the years so the 3D model isn't correct for earlier liveries, but it's not a big issue.

      The review then comments that the avionics are modern and this is probably due to the civilian restoration. In fact the last PR9s were operational with the RAF until 2006 so had been fitted with modern navigation equipment including GPS. This was necessary to get the positional accuracy required for the photo recce missions.

      The reviewer seems confused by having a Mk.10 autopilot in a Mk.9 Canberra. It's the Mk.10 version of that autopilot design. The version numbering for the aircraft is not related. I should have thought this was obvious.

      The review says taxiing is difficult. So it is, but Just Flight have provided an option for users without brake pedals so that the nosewheel steers with the rudder. This is all explained in the manual and should be mentioned in the review to balance the "difficult" comment.

      Takeoff data is referred to in the pilot's notes as being in the operating data manual but is not there. The after takeoff safety speed is mentioned (150knots) which I take as being equivalent to V2, so you can work backwards from there. I usually use full thrust for takeoff. 90% is quite low in the sim, which seems a little underpowered for the high performance real PR9 pilots mention.

      Contrary to what the reviewer says full climb guidance is provided. Jets like this don't climb at a given angle or rate, as he expects. You set thust and fly to a climb speed. In this case 97.5% RPM and 330 kts or Mach 0.72. If you follow that profile you can get to the kinds of altitude mentioned in the data manual. Graphs showing altitude versus time for various takeoff weights are provided.

      Generally this is a very good addon and a new high standard in Just Flight products. I think the simulated performance is a little bit lacking and there are one or two bugs that need addressing. Otherwise it's a very good addition to anyone's collection of detailed aircraft addons.
    1. Joob's Avatar
      Joob -
      Quote Originally Posted by madPILOT View Post
      Yes sir want you the e-mail corresponden between me and Just flight. Me and some outer virtual pilot test it under Multiplayer and don't work.

      A peer to peer ins not Multiplayer, know you what multiplayer is.

      Her a link http://www.fsopen.co.uk/info/sessions/

      But you can read it also under Just Flight info after e-mail between me and Just Flight read her http://www.justflight.com/product/canberra-pr9-download


      System Requirements:

      Flight Simulator X (Acceleration, Gold or SP2 required) or Prepar3D / Prepar3D v2
      2.0GHz or any Dual Core
      2.0GB RAM
      512MB graphics card
      Windows 8, 7, Vista or XP (32-bit or 64-bit)
      960MB hard drive space

      Note: This product is not compatible with FSX multiplayer mode.

      Well.... Having flown FS multiplayer since FS98 I like to think I know what Multiplayer is in all its various forms

      The Group I fly with have witnessed no problems at all with the Canberra and Multiplayer. Strange. **Shrugs**
    1. sebyh's Avatar
      sebyh -
      I found some of the comments as good or even better than the review. With this many experts out there in the community its a miracle any one dares write a review.

      A very big thank you to reviewer and to all the very knowledgeable comments writers, I have a new found love for this iconic aircraft.

      As mentioned Just flight deserves a pat on the back for this addon, I hope to see more like it.
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